[iaoa-education] Next meeting of the IAOA Education TC -- extended to all interested in the new IAOA webinars series
Laure Vieu
vieu at irit.fr
Tue Mar 23 15:55:35 CET 2021
Dear all,
(A very short message for the moment)
Unfortunately, the Doodle has no perfect answer. Our bad, late polls
yield bad results
We propose to meet on Thursday*March 25 10:00-11:30.*
*Since some of us cannot attend, we also propose a preparatory, shorter,
call tomorrow Wednesday March 24 **15:00-15:30 (or at most 45 min), in
order to give most people the chance to be updated and give comments by
talking, not writing. It'd be your choice to join that session too or not.*
*Full call details and a tentative agenda will be sent asap. (Sorry for
the hectic handling of these matters!!)*
*Best regards*
*Laure
*
**Le 22/03/2021 à 10:26, Laure Vieu a écrit :
> Dear all,
>
> a gentle reminder for those of you who are interested but haven't yet
> filled the Doodle https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb
>
> Please fill the Doodle today, the date will be fixed by tomorrow.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laure
>
>
> -------- Message transféré --------
>
> Sujet : Fixing the next meeting of the IAOA Education TC -- extended
> to all interested in the new IAOA webinars series
> Date : Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:22:26 +0100
> De : Laure Vieu <vieu at irit.fr>
> Pour : IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>, Cassia
> TROJAHN <Cassia.Trojahn at irit.fr>, Daniele Porello
> <daniele.porello at loa.istc.cnr.it>, IAOA Executive Council
> <iaoa-council at ovgu.de>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> with a big delay (sorry!), here is the link to the Doodle to fix the
> next meeting:
> https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb
>
> please fill it by this friday March 19 so as to fix the best slot
> before it fills up with other duties.
>
> meanwhile, the EduTC common workspace (ticketing system + internal
> wiki) has been set up:
> https://trac.iaoa.org:777/edutc
> right now it is completely empty, but soon a page to gather lecturer
> suggestions and a page to investigate technical solutions will be set-up
> the idea is that this is an internal tool, and not a substitute to the
> existing public wiki.
>
> there is a system to create an account. please have a try. we do not
> know yet whether it works, so please report any issue.
>
> Best regards,
> Laure
>
>
> Le 03/03/2021 à 14:59, Frank Loebe a écrit :
> Dear all,
>
> please find below the unedited chat transcript of the Education
> Committee meeting n.44, held today.
>
> If you have any comments or change requests, please let me know.
>
> A follow-up meeting is planned for the week starting on Mar 22, 2021.
> A Doodle poll for determining the exact time slot shall follow soon.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> -- unedited chat transcript --
>
> [10:56] FrankLoebe: .
> = IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.44 on Mar 03, 2021 =
>
> ----------------> WELCOME (BACK) <----------------
>
> --> Meeting n.44 Wed, Mar 03, 2021
> 05:00 EST / 10:00 UTC / 11:00 CET / 12:00 SAST [1]
>
> Skype: https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY
> Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ
>
> [1]
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210303T1000&ah=1&am=30
> selected based on [2]
>
> [2] https://doodle.com/poll/mknafezeu6hvkzbp
>
>
> == participants ==
>
> expecting:
> TH Torsten Hahmann [likely late]
> LJ Ludger Jansen
> MK Maria Keet
> OK Oliver Kutz
> FL Frank Loebe
> SL Sandra Lovrencic
> DP Daniele Porello
> RR Robert Rovetto
> ES Emilio Sanfilippo
> CT Cassia Trojahn
> LV Laure Vieu
>
> regrets:
> < none >
>
>
> == agenda ==
>
> 0. adoption of agenda
>
> 1. webinar series on applied ontology
> a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)
> b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)
> c. first program (what who when)
> d. who handles the whole process
>
> 2. status and revival of the Education Committee
>
> 3. next meeting(s) and AOB
>
>
> == pre-meeting material ==
>
> == 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==
>
> [1] initiating message
>
> https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2021-February/000289.html
>
>
> < excerpt from [1] >
> [...] to invite you to contribute to develop a program of short
> webinars (on-line video lectures) on fundamentals of Ontology and its
> Applications.
>
> IAOA's main educational activity, the ISAO summer school, was
> cancelled in 2020 with hopes to postpone it to September 2021. But
> pandemic uncertainties are still high and since we deemed that a
> proper summer school cannot be held on-line, ISAO 2021 is now
> cancelled. Of course, ISAO summer schools shall resume when the
> situation will improve.
>
> The idea then emerged in the IAOA EC to create a program of short
> on-line lectures, possibly asking some of the lecturers who were on
> the ISAO 2020 program to contribute, as well as extending to the
> wealth of great lecturers present in our community. The webinar series
> could adopt a regular frequency, and extend over the years, possibly
> becoming a main instrument of the IAOA Education Technical Committee.
>
> Educational activities certainly are in high demand from IAOA members.
> The EduTC needs to be revived, and the webinar series project could be
> the occasion to gather energies and make it active again.
> </ excerpt >
>
> [10:58] anonymous morphed into MariaKeet
>
> [11:07] FrankLoebe: < session started at 11:05 CET >
>
> [11:08] FrankLoebe: .
> < FL gives brief introduction on the background of the meeting >
> [agreement] agenda adopted
>
> [11:08] FrankLoebe: .
> == 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==
> a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)
> b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)
> c. first program (what who when)
> d. who handles the whole process
>
> [11:09] FrankLoebe: .
> < LV summarizing the background of the webinar series idea, cf.
> pre-meeting material on item 1. >
>
> [11:10] FrankLoebe: LV: we'd not simply convert the summer school
> format into an online variant, but rather to consider a new online format
>
> [11:11] FrankLoebe: LV: first ideas: short (ca. 20 min)
> webinars/presentations; e.g.: what's a perdurant? what's a top-level
> ontology? ... having many of those
>
> [11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: who is this targeting? Anyone out there?
> post-grads, PhDs?
>
> [11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: this will affect topics
>
> [11:13] FrankLoebe: LV: hasn't been fixed, but similar to the summer
> schools seems plausible
>
> [11:14] FrankLoebe: MK: I get emails from industry people asking for
> explanations on my textbook
>
> [11:16] FrankLoebe: FL: perhaps we don't have to fix this for all
> webinars in the same way; could have some for postgrad level, some for
> industry/business
>
> [11:19] FrankLoebe: LV: generally, we plan to continue this/provide
> webinars over years, not just replacing ISAO in 2021
>
> [11:20] FrankLoebe: FL: yes, but we should also plan something
> concrete for this year
>
> [11:24] FrankLoebe: ES: I welcome the idea in general; on the format,
> the question is what to do, e.g., several online-conferences have
> expected that people looked at videos beforehand, then having live
> discussion sessions
>
> [11:30] FrankLoebe: CT: +1, have also seen that in conferences;
> although live talks are also nice
>
> [11:30] FrankLoebe: < discussion about format options, esp.
> pre-recording vs. live session >
>
> [11:31] FrankLoebe: options discussed: live-sessions; pre-recording +
> later live session, possibly with panel-discussion
>
> [11:31] anonymous1 morphed into LudgerJansen
>
> [11:32] FrankLoebe: MK: there are also a number of videos out there,
> from online classes held already
>
> [11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: [...]
>
> LJ: what's the aim? unrelated topics or do we have a focus topic?
>
> [11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: would not want to be too constraining?
>
> [11:35] FrankLoebe: LJ: the decision will influence our approach
>
> [11:35] FrankLoebe: LV: one idea was to start with the intended
> lecturers of ISAO 2020 (asking them)
>
> [11:37] FrankLoebe: LV: those could give a set of small videos that
> are related ... but that's just one idea
>
> [11:39] FrankLoebe: MK: for the African Summer school we had an open
> call for basic and advanced topics, creating a program from what we
> received as talk suggestions
>
> [11:40] FrankLoebe: FL: sounds like a good idea to me, having
> self-motivated presenters; we could fill in gaps (in topic coverage) later
>
> [11:40] MariaKeet: ^ (was this one: http://sigir.org/afirm2020/
> [unrelated topics though])
>
> [11:48] FrankLoebe: LV: perhaps we ask known presenters in a first
> round (N.Guarino, A.Varzi, K.Fine, etc.), then continue with an open call
>
> [11:50] FrankLoebe: < discussion on who to ask vs. open call; format
> and possible durations >
>
> [11:50] FrankLoebe: MK: I think we shouldn't have only presenters of
> one group of age; want to demonstrate a lively & vibrant community
>
> [11:51] FrankLoebe: LV: I agree, we should have a mixed approach
>
> [11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: +1 for balance between the presenters
>
> [11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: on duration: students drop out after 10-12
> min, even 20-25 is too long; 45 min is far too long
>
> [11:52] FrankLoebe: MK: ^this is based on studies; more "action" on
> the slides helps a bit (flying, moving things)
>
> [11:55] FrankLoebe: < discussion about readiness of presenters to
> stick to new, short formats >
>
> [11:56] FrankLoebe: FL: approaches need not exclude each other,
> majority could be shorts, plus some longer ones
>
> [11:56] FrankLoebe: LJ: it's a challenge to re-format ways to explain
> topics in bits of 10 min ... will be interesting to see what is produced
>
> [11:57] MariaKeet1: I have to leave in a few minutes
>
> [11:59] FrankLoebe: MK: I'd be interested in structuring and planning
> of the series; giving input on how to restructure talks etc.
>
> [12:03] FrankLoebe: LV: we should start asap, once the technical setup
> is clarified
>
> [12:04] FrankLoebe: MK: still need to clarify whether course-like or
> rather self-standing video that can be cherry-picked
>
> [12:05] FrankLoebe: LV: certainly self-standing is preferred
>
> [12:06] FrankLoebe: FL, DP: +1
>
> [12:09] MariaKeet1: I really have to go now, sorry. I'll see follow
> via email?
>
> [12:09] MariaKeet1: bye
>
> [12:13] FrankLoebe: < general expressions of interest and occasional
> contributions; no one in the meeting can take the full lead >
>
> [12:22] FrankLoebe: < discussion on how to proceed >
>
> [12:24] FrankLoebe: [agreement] next meeting TBD via Doodle in week of
> Mar 22, with time slots that allow for American participation, too
>
> [12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] establish a branch in IAOA's
> internal wiki for joint work during the meetings
>
> [12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] setup the Doodle for the next meeting
>
> [12:26] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL
>
> [12:27] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL+??] start a wikipage on first
> candidate lectures with presenter, scope and target audience
>
> [12:28] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] consider moving forward the
> clarification of which technical basis to use
>
> [12:28] FrankLoebe: < session ended a few minutes ago >
>
> [12:31] FrankLoebe: .
> == participants ==
>
> present:
> LJ Ludger Jansen
> MK Maria Keet
> FL Frank Loebe
> DP Daniele Porello
> ES Emilio Sanfilippo
> CT Cassia Trojahn
> LV Laure Vieu
>
> < chat transcript ends >
>
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