[iaoa-education] 1st (new) IAOA Education Committee meeting - Wed 2015.09.02: session transcript

Thu Sep 3 19:16:42 CEST 2015

My apologies on missing the session but I could not rearrange my schedule
with only a day's notice.

Here is my info:
   Andrea Westerinen, Consultant and architect/lead developer on an
ontology-driven (reasoning-driven) policy managment system
(based on OWL2, written in Java, using Stardog as the triple store and
reasoning engine),
work for Nine Points Solutions, LLC, a small company in Maryland

I will be joining for the next call, and would appreciate getting the wiki
password (I do not have it).

Thank you and I am looking forward to working with you.

Andrea Westerinen
T: 425.891.8407
arwesterinen at gmail.com or andreaw at ninepts.com
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AndreaWesterinen
organizingknowledge.blogspot.com

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Frank Loebe <
frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> please find below the notes / session transcript of the 1st Education
> Committee meeting 2015, held today, on Sep 2.
>
> This is almost unedited, with three exceptions:
>
> (1) I removed the wiki password because the mailing list archive is
> publically accessible (please approach Maria, Zena or myself if it's not
> available to you),
>
> (2) I added notes on the former terminology project that I couldn't
> capture during the meeting, and
>
> (3) I clarified one name.
>
>
> I'm sorry but I don't see a chance to rework the notes into proper
> minutes. However, if anyone wishes to see corrections or additions (of
> uncovered statements), please respond to the mailing list or let me know.
>
> Thanks to all participants and best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> -- edited session transcript --
> (all edits (3) are marked with EDIT and begin and end markers,
>  e.g. [[ ]] )
>
>
> [16:54] MariaKeet: = 1st Meeting of the Technical Committee on Education
> of the IAOA =
>
> == Call details (summary) ==
>
> * Date:       Wed 2015.09.02
> * Start Time: 08:00 PDT / 11:00 EDT / 12:00 BRT /
>               16:00 BST / 17:00 CEST & SAST
> * Duration:   ~1.5 Hours
>
>   ** worldclock:
>
>
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150902T1500&ah=1&am=30
>
> * Dial-in with PIN:  843758#
>   ** Skype:          join.conference
>   ** or, Phone (US): +1 (425) 440-5100 or +1 (315) 401-3279
>
> * in-session chat:
>   http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20150902
>
>
>
> == Agenda ==
>
> 1. Opening, adoption of the agenda, and a scribe
>
> 2. Round of introductions of participants
>
> 3. Committee activities
>
> 4. Sharing/division of tasks
>
> 5. AOB
>
> 6. Next meeting and close
>
> [16:56] MariaKeet: Hi Frank, welcome
>
> [16:57] FrankLoebe: Hi Maria, thanks
>
> [16:57] MariaKeet: Zena will be logging in as moderator in a bit
>
> [16:58] FrankLoebe: Ok, that sounds good, I'll join the call in a minute,
> too.
>
> [16:58] anonymous morphed into Amanda Hicks
>
> [17:00] MariaKeet: anyone having problems dialing in?
>
> [17:03] FrankLoebe: < session starts >
>
> [17:04] MariaKeet: item 3. more precisely: wiki, textbook, summerschool
>
> [17:04] FrankLoebe: Oliver Kutz (OK) suggests that the Summer School is
> run/overlooked by the Education Committee
>
> [17:05] MariaKeet: + terminolog (in item 3)
>
> [17:05] anonymous morphed into Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>
> [17:06] FrankLoebe: < still in > == 1. Opening, adoption of the agenda,
> and a scribe ==
>
> [17:06] ZenaWood: Sorry I have a builder sawing next door to me so will be
> muting my microphone when needed!
>
> [17:06] anonymous morphed into Sandra
>
> [17:08] Sandra morphed into Sandra Lovrencic
>
> [17:08] FrankLoebe: FL will take notes in the chat, but cannot do
> postediting
>
> [17:09] FrankLoebe: .== 2. Round of introductions of participants ==
>
> [17:10] FrankLoebe: participant notes:
> Sandra Lovrencic, University of Florida, Bioinformatics-related
>
> [17:10] FrankLoebe: Frank Loebe, U. of Leipzig, Germany, top-level
> ontologies and ontology representation
>
> [17:10] anonymous morphed into Bahar Aameri
>
> [17:10] Amanda Hicks: Amanda Hicks, University of Florida,
> Bioinformatics-related
>
> [17:11] FrankLoebe: Julita Bermejo-Alonso, Univ. of Madrid
>
> [17:11] FrankLoebe: Maria Keet, Univ. of Cape Town, South-Africa, senior
> lecturer on ontology courses
>
> [17:12] FrankLoebe: [please feel free to add comments on your own]
>
> [17:12] FrankLoebe: Oliver Kutz, Univ. of Bolzano,
>
> [17:12] Julita Bermejo-Alonso: Julita Bermejo-Alonso, Researcher at
> Universidad Politécnica of Madrid, Spain. Ontology-driven Systems
> Engineering.
>
> [17:13] FrankLoebe: Sandra Lovrencic, Univ. of Zagreb
>
> [17:13] FrankLoebe: Zena Wood, Univ. of Greenwhich, research focus on
> Collectives
>
> [17:14] FrankLoebe: Werner Ceusters, Univ. of Buffalo, Basic Formal
> Ontology & Referent Tracking (using ontologies to annotate data in EHRs)
>
> [17:15] anonymous morphed into werner ceusters
>
> [17:15] Bahar Aameri: yes
>
> [17:16] FrankLoebe: Bahar Aameri, PhD candidate at Univ. of Toronto,
> ontologies in first-order logic and ontology verification
>
> [17:16] FrankLoebe: [correction] probably Amanda Hicks is at Univ. of
> Florida
>
> [17:17] FrankLoebe: .
> == 3. Committee activities ==
>
> [17:17] Sandra Lovrencic: Sandra Lovrencic: knowledge representation with
> ontologies, ontology evaluation
>
> [17:17] FrankLoebe: sub-items: wiki, textbook, summerschool
>
> [17:18] OliverKutz: website is here
>
> [17:18] OliverKutz:
> http://www.polytech.univ-savoie.fr/index.php?id=3108&L=0
>
> [17:18] FrankLoebe: ^ FOIS 2016 website
>
> [17:22] FrankLoebe: OK: I suggest to push FOIS organizers for next steps
> regarding the Summer School
>
> [17:23] FrankLoebe: ZW: would the Summer School be run by the FOIS
> organizers or would it be independent?
>
> [17:24] FrankLoebe: FL: rather independent
>
> [17:25] FrankLoebe: OK: although it was very useful last year to have it
> closely together, and Summer School participants joinig FOIS later on (e.g.
> Kit Fine)
>
> [17:27] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] look for name of the local contact
> person or ask FOIS local organizers for it
>
> [17:31] FrankLoebe: MK, ZW: we need more information on everything that
> needs to be done (general chairing, sponsorship, "PC activity" (selection
> of content/speakers), ...)
>
> [17:32] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] start clarification via email with
> Michael Gruninger, Joao Paulo Almeida
>
> [17:32] FrankLoebe: [summary] A decision by MK,ZW on running the summer
> school shall be made after more information is available
>
> [17:33] FrankLoebe: .
> === Wiki ===
>
> [17:33] FrankLoebe: see http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/
>
> [17:34] FrankLoebe: MK: we can do the sysadmin management, content can be
> added by everyone (password was shared via email earlier)
>
> [17:34] FrankLoebe: ZW: current content was put together by MK & ZW
>
> [17:35] [[EDIT: wiki password available on request from Maria Keet, Zena
> Wood or Frank Loebe]]
>
> [17:35] FrankLoebe: Amanda Hicks (AH) would be interested in content
> management of the wiki
>
> [17:37] FrankLoebe: AH would appreciate comments as the wiki evolves, any
> additional ideas
>
> [17:38] FrankLoebe: MK: one issue I had: books focus on different
> audiences (philosophers ... computer scientists ...), I was wondering
> whether we should use a semantic wiki or sth the like for
> finding/classifying material
>
> [17:43] FrankLoebe: FL: we may also work on a light-weight
> ontology/classification of topics, etc. and start a semantic wiki at a
> later stage
>
> [17:43] FrankLoebe: .
> === Terminology Project ===
>
> [17:47] MariaKeet:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique
>
> [17:47] Amanda Hicks:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IaoaOntologyTerminology
>
> [17:49] FrankLoebe: < OK, FL summarized a bit of the background of the
> terminology project >
>
> [17:49] FrankLoebe: FL: focus was a bit different than terms for content
> classification
>
> [17:51] FrankLoebe: Werner Ceusters (WC) has some experience with
> gathering terms and working out agreements in the context of the BFO
> community
>
> [17:53] anonymous morphed into vinay
>
> [17:55] FrankLoebe: < FL remarks on issues with the terminology projects,
> possibly to be added later >
>
> [[EDIT: FL remarks:
> * in my perception, there were some issues with the terminology project at
> that time:
>  ** difficult notions were to be covered, for which it will be hard to
> find agreements (i.e., several variants may need to co-exist)
>  ** it requires much work and was intended to be shared by multiple
> people, whereas few contributed eventually
>  ** it seemed that many were "distracted" by their day-to-day business,
> whereas the terminology in itself seemed not to be sufficiently rewarding
> to motivate a "critical mass" of contributors
>
> * despite this perception on the last attempt, I still think it would be a
> valuable resource to have such a terminology and thus useful to construct
> one
> ]]
>
> [17:56] FrankLoebe: WC: settling the/a terminology would be a major issue
> for the textbook idea/project
>
> [17:57] FrankLoebe: Sandra Lovrencic (?): perhaps we should gather a bit
> more information on those intended projects, not making a decision today
>
> [17:57] Sandra Lovrencic: yes
>
> [17:58] FrankLoebe: WC: perhaps those of us interested in the terminology
> could describe how they use certain terms and how that differs from other
> uses they are aware of
>
> [17:59] FrankLoebe: < decisions on terminology are postponed to the
> next/later meetings Y>
>
> [17:59] FrankLoebe: .
> === Textbook ===
>
> [18:01] FrankLoebe: ZW: the idea was to outline a textbook (not so much a
> handbook) in order to then find individuals for writing chapters of the
> textbook
>
> [18:01] FrankLoebe: MK: target audience and prerequisites need ot be
> clarified
>
> [18:02] FrankLoebe: MK: publishing needs clarification: cheap vs.
> regular/expensive publishers, no printed publishing
>
> [18:06] FrankLoebe: FL: my question was how to ensure coherence and having
> "the same level" and possibly writing style in the textbook, which
> personally I'd like much for a textbook (whereas handbooks may have more
> independent chapters)
>
> [18:07] FrankLoebe: MK: yes, e.g. terminology should be settled early then
> ... with a small, core team there could be 4-5 people only
>
> [18:08] FrankLoebe: OK: perhaps a modular approach could work, starting
> with a small core written by a group, then later adding "orbiting" chapters
> by others
>
> [18:09] FrankLoebe: AH: we could start gathering our material on the wiki,
> and see terminology differences in there, for instance ...
>
> [18:11] FrankLoebe: MK: < agenda item 4. was merged in between >
>
> [18:11] FrankLoebe: < no further business >
>
> [18:12] FrankLoebe: .
> == next meetings ==
>
> [18:12] FrankLoebe: next meeting would then be on Oct 7
>
> [18:13] FrankLoebe: ^[agreement]
>
> [18:13] OliverKutz: i will be busy then
>
> [18:13] Sandra Lovrencic: not sure yet
>
> [18:13] MariaKeet: thank you all
>
> [18:13] MariaKeet: bye
>
> [18:13] FrankLoebe: .
> == participants ==
>  Amanda Hicks
>  Bahar Aameri
>  FrankLoebe
>  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>  MariaKeet
>  OliverKutz
>  Sandra Lovrencic
>  vinay [[EDIT: vinay = Vinay Chaudhri]]
>  werner ceusters
>  ZenaWood
>
> [18:14] FrankLoebe: < session ends >
>
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