[iaoa-education] 1st (new) IAOA Education Committee meeting - Wed 2015.09.02: session transcript

[Frank Loebe]

Dear all,

please find below the notes / session transcript of the 1st Education 
Committee meeting 2015, held today, on Sep 2.

This is almost unedited, with three exceptions:

(1) I removed the wiki password because the mailing list archive is 
publically accessible (please approach Maria, Zena or myself if it's not 
available to you),

(2) I added notes on the former terminology project that I couldn't 
capture during the meeting, and

(3) I clarified one name.


I'm sorry but I don't see a chance to rework the notes into proper 
minutes. However, if anyone wishes to see corrections or additions (of 
uncovered statements), please respond to the mailing list or let me know.

Thanks to all participants and best regards,
Frank


-- edited session transcript --
(all edits (3) are marked with EDIT and begin and end markers,
  e.g. [[ ]] )


[16:54] MariaKeet: = 1st Meeting of the Technical Committee on Education 
of the IAOA =

== Call details (summary) ==

* Date:       Wed 2015.09.02
* Start Time: 08:00 PDT / 11:00 EDT / 12:00 BRT /
               16:00 BST / 17:00 CEST & SAST
* Duration:   ~1.5 Hours

   ** worldclock:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150902T1500&ah=1&am=30

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== Agenda ==

1. Opening, adoption of the agenda, and a scribe

2. Round of introductions of participants

3. Committee activities

4. Sharing/division of tasks

5. AOB

6. Next meeting and close

[16:56] MariaKeet: Hi Frank, welcome

[16:57] FrankLoebe: Hi Maria, thanks

[16:57] MariaKeet: Zena will be logging in as moderator in a bit

[16:58] FrankLoebe: Ok, that sounds good, I'll join the call in a 
minute, too.

[16:58] anonymous morphed into Amanda Hicks

[17:00] MariaKeet: anyone having problems dialing in?

[17:03] FrankLoebe: < session starts >

[17:04] MariaKeet: item 3. more precisely: wiki, textbook, summerschool

[17:04] FrankLoebe: Oliver Kutz (OK) suggests that the Summer School is 
run/overlooked by the Education Committee

[17:05] MariaKeet: + terminolog (in item 3)

[17:05] anonymous morphed into Julita Bermejo-Alonso

[17:06] FrankLoebe: < still in > == 1. Opening, adoption of the agenda, 
and a scribe ==

[17:06] ZenaWood: Sorry I have a builder sawing next door to me so will 
be muting my microphone when needed!

[17:06] anonymous morphed into Sandra

[17:08] Sandra morphed into Sandra Lovrencic

[17:08] FrankLoebe: FL will take notes in the chat, but cannot do 
postediting

[17:09] FrankLoebe: .== 2. Round of introductions of participants ==

[17:10] FrankLoebe: participant notes:
Sandra Lovrencic, University of Florida, Bioinformatics-related

[17:10] FrankLoebe: Frank Loebe, U. of Leipzig, Germany, top-level 
ontologies and ontology representation

[17:10] anonymous morphed into Bahar Aameri

[17:10] Amanda Hicks: Amanda Hicks, University of Florida, 
Bioinformatics-related

[17:11] FrankLoebe: Julita Bermejo-Alonso, Univ. of Madrid

[17:11] FrankLoebe: Maria Keet, Univ. of Cape Town, South-Africa, senior 
lecturer on ontology courses

[17:12] FrankLoebe: [please feel free to add comments on your own]

[17:12] FrankLoebe: Oliver Kutz, Univ. of Bolzano,

[17:12] Julita Bermejo-Alonso: Julita Bermejo-Alonso, Researcher at 
Universidad Politécnica of Madrid, Spain. Ontology-driven Systems 
Engineering.

[17:13] FrankLoebe: Sandra Lovrencic, Univ. of Zagreb

[17:13] FrankLoebe: Zena Wood, Univ. of Greenwhich, research focus on 
Collectives

[17:14] FrankLoebe: Werner Ceusters, Univ. of Buffalo, Basic Formal 
Ontology & Referent Tracking (using ontologies to annotate data in EHRs)

[17:15] anonymous morphed into werner ceusters

[17:15] Bahar Aameri: yes

[17:16] FrankLoebe: Bahar Aameri, PhD candidate at Univ. of Toronto, 
ontologies in first-order logic and ontology verification

[17:16] FrankLoebe: [correction] probably Amanda Hicks is at Univ. of 
Florida

[17:17] FrankLoebe: .
== 3. Committee activities ==

[17:17] Sandra Lovrencic: Sandra Lovrencic: knowledge representation 
with ontologies, ontology evaluation

[17:17] FrankLoebe: sub-items: wiki, textbook, summerschool

[17:18] OliverKutz: website is here

[17:18] OliverKutz: http://www.polytech.univ-savoie.fr/index.php?id=3108&L=0

[17:18] FrankLoebe: ^ FOIS 2016 website

[17:22] FrankLoebe: OK: I suggest to push FOIS organizers for next steps 
regarding the Summer School

[17:23] FrankLoebe: ZW: would the Summer School be run by the FOIS 
organizers or would it be independent?

[17:24] FrankLoebe: FL: rather independent

[17:25] FrankLoebe: OK: although it was very useful last year to have it 
closely together, and Summer School participants joinig FOIS later on 
(e.g. Kit Fine)

[17:27] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] look for name of the local contact 
person or ask FOIS local organizers for it

[17:31] FrankLoebe: MK, ZW: we need more information on everything that 
needs to be done (general chairing, sponsorship, "PC activity" 
(selection of content/speakers), ...)

[17:32] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] start clarification via email with 
Michael Gruninger, Joao Paulo Almeida

[17:32] FrankLoebe: [summary] A decision by MK,ZW on running the summer 
school shall be made after more information is available

[17:33] FrankLoebe: .
=== Wiki ===

[17:33] FrankLoebe: see http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/

[17:34] FrankLoebe: MK: we can do the sysadmin management, content can 
be added by everyone (password was shared via email earlier)

[17:34] FrankLoebe: ZW: current content was put together by MK & ZW

[17:35] [[EDIT: wiki password available on request from Maria Keet, Zena 
Wood or Frank Loebe]]

[17:35] FrankLoebe: Amanda Hicks (AH) would be interested in content 
management of the wiki

[17:37] FrankLoebe: AH would appreciate comments as the wiki evolves, 
any additional ideas

[17:38] FrankLoebe: MK: one issue I had: books focus on different 
audiences (philosophers ... computer scientists ...), I was wondering 
whether we should use a semantic wiki or sth the like for 
finding/classifying material

[17:43] FrankLoebe: FL: we may also work on a light-weight 
ontology/classification of topics, etc. and start a semantic wiki at a 
later stage

[17:43] FrankLoebe: .
=== Terminology Project ===

[17:47] MariaKeet: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique

[17:47] Amanda Hicks: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IaoaOntologyTerminology

[17:49] FrankLoebe: < OK, FL summarized a bit of the background of the 
terminology project >

[17:49] FrankLoebe: FL: focus was a bit different than terms for content 
classification

[17:51] FrankLoebe: Werner Ceusters (WC) has some experience with 
gathering terms and working out agreements in the context of the BFO 
community

[17:53] anonymous morphed into vinay

[17:55] FrankLoebe: < FL remarks on issues with the terminology 
projects, possibly to be added later >

[[EDIT: FL remarks:
* in my perception, there were some issues with the terminology project 
at that time:
  ** difficult notions were to be covered, for which it will be hard to 
find agreements (i.e., several variants may need to co-exist)
  ** it requires much work and was intended to be shared by multiple 
people, whereas few contributed eventually
  ** it seemed that many were "distracted" by their day-to-day business, 
whereas the terminology in itself seemed not to be sufficiently 
rewarding to motivate a "critical mass" of contributors

* despite this perception on the last attempt, I still think it would be 
a valuable resource to have such a terminology and thus useful to 
construct one
]]

[17:56] FrankLoebe: WC: settling the/a terminology would be a major 
issue for the textbook idea/project

[17:57] FrankLoebe: Sandra Lovrencic (?): perhaps we should gather a bit 
more information on those intended projects, not making a decision today

[17:57] Sandra Lovrencic: yes

[17:58] FrankLoebe: WC: perhaps those of us interested in the 
terminology could describe how they use certain terms and how that 
differs from other uses they are aware of

[17:59] FrankLoebe: < decisions on terminology are postponed to the 
next/later meetings Y>

[17:59] FrankLoebe: .
=== Textbook ===

[18:01] FrankLoebe: ZW: the idea was to outline a textbook (not so much 
a handbook) in order to then find individuals for writing chapters of 
the textbook

[18:01] FrankLoebe: MK: target audience and prerequisites need ot be 
clarified

[18:02] FrankLoebe: MK: publishing needs clarification: cheap vs. 
regular/expensive publishers, no printed publishing

[18:06] FrankLoebe: FL: my question was how to ensure coherence and 
having "the same level" and possibly writing style in the textbook, 
which personally I'd like much for a textbook (whereas handbooks may 
have more independent chapters)

[18:07] FrankLoebe: MK: yes, e.g. terminology should be settled early 
then ... with a small, core team there could be 4-5 people only

[18:08] FrankLoebe: OK: perhaps a modular approach could work, starting 
with a small core written by a group, then later adding "orbiting" 
chapters by others

[18:09] FrankLoebe: AH: we could start gathering our material on the 
wiki, and see terminology differences in there, for instance ...

[18:11] FrankLoebe: MK: < agenda item 4. was merged in between >

[18:11] FrankLoebe: < no further business >

[18:12] FrankLoebe: .
== next meetings ==

[18:12] FrankLoebe: next meeting would then be on Oct 7

[18:13] FrankLoebe: ^[agreement]

[18:13] OliverKutz: i will be busy then

[18:13] Sandra Lovrencic: not sure yet

[18:13] MariaKeet: thank you all

[18:13] MariaKeet: bye

[18:13] FrankLoebe: .
== participants ==
  Amanda Hicks
  Bahar Aameri
  FrankLoebe
  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
  MariaKeet
  OliverKutz
  Sandra Lovrencic
  vinay [[EDIT: vinay = Vinay Chaudhri]]
  werner ceusters
  ZenaWood

[18:14] FrankLoebe: < session ends >