[iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting on 2015.12.02: chat transcript

Maria Keet mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za
Fri Dec 4 13:34:15 CET 2015


Dear All,

Please find attached the chat transcript of the meeting.

Regards,
Maria

On 29/11/2015 22:57, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear Education Committee members,
>
> the next IAOA Education Committee call will take place on Wed, Dec 02:
>
>   --> Meeting n.04                 Wed, Dec 02, 2015
>       08:00 PST  / 11:00 EST / 16:00 GMT / 17:00 CET
>       14:00 BRST / 18:00 SAST              (cf. [A])
>
>   Skype:  join.conference           PIN: 843758#
>   Chat :  http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20151202
>
> Please find below an agenda proposal, followed by some pre-meeting
> material, then by the specific call details. At the end there are
> slightly more detailed instructions on how to join the conference call.
>
> If you have any comments or questions regarding the agenda or the
> meeting in general, please use the mailing list or contact Maria [B] 
> and Zena [C] directly. Should any technical questions remain, please 
> contact Frank [D].
>
> Hoping for your availability and looking forward to our next meeting,
> Frank
>
>
> = 4th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Committee on Education - Dec 02, 2015 =
>
> == Agenda ==
>
>   0. Adoption of agenda
>
> ! 1. Summer School 2016
>      a. location: Bolzano [MK,ZW,FL]
>      b. role of Education Committee
>         * comments from EC meeting n.137 2015.11.16        [FL]
>         * chairs and overall, for 2016 and in general
>      c. related actions
>         1: FOIS keynote speakers (Edu meeting n.03, EC n.137)
>         2: course setup                                    [ZW,MK]
>         3: website setup
>         4: call preparation
>         5: budget draft (local chairs)
>      d. next steps
>
>   2. Ontology Competition 2016
>      a. relationship to FOIS 2016 ontology competition     [MK]
>      b. additional competition ideas since meeting n.03?
>
>   3. Education Committee Wiki
>      a. new content since meeting n.03?
>      b. term collection
>         1: email asking for term definitions               [SL]
>         2: setup of term-specific wiki pages               [AH,ZW]
> ?    c. contact list (?)
>
>   4. public vs private mailing list archives               [FL]
>
>   5. Further actions from previous meeting
>      a. footer update of mailing list messages             [FL]
>
>   6. AOB
>
>   7. Next meeting
>
>
> = pre-meeting material =
>
> == 1. Summer School 2016 ==
>
> === 1a. location: Bolzano ===
>
> discussed, tentative key information:
> <! FORMAL ADOPTION STILL PENDING !>
>
> * Summer School dates: Jun 27 - Jul 01, 2016
> * location / hosting:  Free University of Bozen-Bolzano, Italy [1]
> * local organizer:     Oliver Kutz
>  ** organizing team members (tentative):
>   *** Maria Hedblom
>   *** Tarek R. Besold
>
> [1] http://www.unibz.it/
>
>
> === 1b. role of Education Committee ===
>
> * EC asks for adoption of steering activity by Education Committee
>   (in the long term)
>  ** discussed in EC meeting n.137 2015.11.16
>
> * steering tasks  [thoughts by FL]
>  ** finding general chairs and location with local chairs
>  ** for consideration: call for summer school hosting?
>  ** providing input to new chairs, e.g. based on material of previous
>     editions
>
> * to keep in mind
>  ** some overlap with FOIS organizers is desirable, especially if
>     times and dates are close between the two, e.g. for inviting
>     FOIS keynote speakers as Summer School facilitators
>
>
> === 1c. 3: website setup ===
>
> * former websites: [1-2]
> * proposed URL for 2016: [3]
> * consider: hosting at IAOA server
> * potential source for local information: ESSLLI 2016 website [4]
>
> [1] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2014/
> [2] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2012/
> [3] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2016/
> [4] http://esslli2016.unibz.it
>
>
> == Call Details (summary) ==
>
> * Date:        Wed 2015.12.02
> * Start Time:  08:00 PST / 11:00 EST / 16:00 GMT / 17:00 CET
>                14:00 BRST / 18:00 SAST  (cf. [A] for local times)
>
> * Duration:    ~1.5 Hours
>
> * Dial-in with PIN:  843758#
>   ** Skype:          join.conference
>   ** or, Phone (US): +1 (425) 440-5100 or +1 (315) 401-3279
>
> * in-session chat:
>   http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20151202
>
>
> == Members referred to ==
>
>  AH  Amanda Hicks
>  MK  Maria Keet
>  FL  Frank Loebe
>  SL  Sandra Lovrencic
>  ZW  Zena Wood
>
>
> == References ==
>
> [A]
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20151202T1600&ah=1&am=30 
>
>
> [B] Maria Keet, homepage with email address
>     http://www.meteck.org/
>
> [C] Zena Wood, staff profile with email address
>
> http://www2.gre.ac.uk/about/faculty/ach/study/cis/staff?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuY21zLmdyZS5hYy51ayUyRnN0YWZmJTJGZGV0YWlsc0dSRS5hc3AlM0ZpZCUzRDEyMjEmYWxsPTE%3D 
>
>
> [D] Secretary, IAOA (Frank Loebe)
>     secretary_AT_iaoa.org
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
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>
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>
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= 4th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Committee on Education - Dec 02, 2015 =

== Call Details (summary) ==

* Date:        Wed 2015.12.02
* Start Time:  08:00 PST / 11:00 EST / 16:00 GMT / 17:00 CET
               14:00 BRST / 18:00 SAST  (cf. [1] for local times)

* Duration:    ~1.5 Hours

* Dial-in with PIN:  843758#
  ** Skype:          join.conference
  ** or, Phone (US): +1 (425) 440-5100 or +1 (315) 401-3279

* in-session chat:
  http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20151202


= pre-meeting material =

== 1. Summer School 2016 ==

=== 1a. location: Bolzano ===

discussed, tentative key information:
<! FORMAL ADOPTION STILL PENDING !>

* Summer School dates: Jun 27 - Jul 01, 2016
* location / hosting:  Free University of Bozen-Bolzano, Italy  [1]
* local organizer:     Oliver Kutz
 ** organizing team members (tentative):
  *** Maria Hedblom
  *** Tarek R. Besold

[1] http://www.unibz.it/


=== 1b. role of Education Committee ===

* EC asks for adoption of steering activity by Education Committee
  (in the long term)
 ** discussed in EC meeting n.137 2015.11.16

* steering tasks  [thoughts by FL]
 ** finding general chairs and location with local chairs
 ** for consideration: call for summer school hosting?
 ** providing input to new chairs, e.g. based on material of previous
    editions

* to keep in mind
 ** some overlap with FOIS organizers is desirable, especially if
    times and dates are close between the two, e.g. for inviting
    FOIS keynote speakers as Summer School facilitators


=== 1c. 3: website setup ===

* former websites: [1-2]
* proposed URL for 2016: [3]
* consider: hosting at IAOA server
* potential source for local information: ESSLLI 2016 website [4]

[1] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2014/
[2] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2012/
[3] http://www.iaoa.org/isc2016/
[4] http://esslli2016.unibz.it


== Members referred to ==

 AH  Amanda Hicks
 MK  Maria Keet
 FL  Frank Loebe
 SL  Sandra Lovrencic
 ZW  Zena Wood



-- unedited chat transcript -

[16:57] Zena: == Agenda ==

   0. Adoption of agenda

! 1. Summer School 2016
      a. location: Bolzano                                  [MK,ZW,FL]
      b. role of Education Committee
         * comments from EC meeting n.137 2015.11.16        [FL]
         * chairs and overall, for 2016 and in general
      c. related actions
         1: FOIS keynote speakers (Edu meeting n.03, EC n.137)
         2: course setup                                    [ZW,MK]
         3: website setup
         4: call preparation
         5: budget draft (local chairs)
      d. next steps

   2. Ontology Competition 2016
      a. relationship to FOIS 2016 ontology competition     [MK]
      b. additional competition ideas since meeting n.03?

   3. Education Committee Wiki
      a. new content since meeting n.03?
      b. term collection
         1: email asking for term definitions               [SL]
         2: setup of term-specific wiki pages               [AH,ZW]
?    c. contact list (?)

   4. public vs private mailing list archives               [FL]

   5. Further actions from previous meeting
      a. footer update of mailing list messages             [FL]

   6. AOB

   7. Next meeting

[16:57] MariaKeet: = 4th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Committee on Education - Dec 02, 2015 =

== Agenda ==

  0. Adoption of agenda

! 1. Summer School 2016
     a. location: Bolzano                                  [MK,ZW,FL]
     b. role of Education Committee
        * comments from EC meeting n.137 2015.11.16        [FL]
        * chairs and overall, for 2016 and in general
     c. related actions
        1: FOIS keynote speakers (Edu meeting n.03, EC n.137)
        2: course setup                                    [ZW,MK]
        3: website setup
        4: call preparation
        5: budget draft (local chairs)
     d. next steps

  2. Ontology Competition 2016
     a. relationship to FOIS 2016 ontology competition     [MK]
     b. additional competition ideas since meeting n.03?

  3. Education Committee Wiki
     a. new content since meeting n.03?
     b. term collection
        1: email asking for term definitions               [SL]
        2: setup of term-specific wiki pages               [AH,ZW]
?    c. contact list (?)

  4. public vs private mailing list archives               [FL]

  5. Further actions from previous meeting
     a. footer update of mailing list messages             [FL]

  6. AOB

  7. Next meeting

[16:57] Zena: maria are you on the call?

[17:04] MariaKeet: ZW: will distribute last meeting's chat transcript

[17:04] MariaKeet: === item: Summer School ===

[17:05] MariaKeet: ZW: ZW & MK will come up with a programme, ask committee for input/suggestions

[17:06] MariaKeet: ZW: OK local chair & website

[17:06] MariaKeet: ZW & MK general chair

[17:08] MariaKeet: FL: link to FOIS

[17:15] MariaKeet: (some brainstorming on names for speakers for the summer school)

[17:17] MariaKeet: FL: consult input from people on quality of speaking/lecturing

[17:18] FrankLoebe: (on earlier item) [action] [ZW] ask Oliver for roles in summer school

[17:24] MariaKeet: outcome: brainstorm more, offline

[17:24] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL,MK,ZW] continue brainstorming via email

[17:25] MariaKeet: ===== ontology competition 2016 ====

[17:25] MariaKeet: ZW, MK, FL: no clear idea still what the FOIS onto competition will be

[17:26] MariaKeet: MK: no additional ideas proposed

[17:27] MariaKeet: FL: still to summarise some ideas and distribute

[17:28] MariaKeet: sill -> will

[17:28] MariaKeet: ==== EC wiki ===

[17:28] MariaKeet: sandra emailed an update

[17:29] MariaKeet: 1: email asking for term definitions
Since we didn't receive any term suggestions, I propose to send the same mail to ontolog-forum (ontolog-forum at googlegroups.com). There are almost 1000 members and they have various discussions that also often include terminology.
I will also check Andrea's blog for terms and we can search for more term definitions online.

2: setup of term-specific wiki pages
I was planning to create pages, but I currently have a lot of classes and couldn't find the time. If Amanda can help, it would be nice. Otherwise, I will be able to do it in January.
We talked in October about term information: term + area + example + reference/source. So, this should be on each term-specific page.

[17:33] MariaKeet: ZW: first set up the page, then ask ontolog; else ends up chaotic

[17:33] MariaKeet: FL: use proxy to add, or distribute pwd widely?

[17:33] MariaKeet: FL,ZW: proxy

[17:34] MariaKeet: ZW: will reply to Sandra

[17:34] MariaKeet: Q on contact list

[17:36] MariaKeet: MK will add link to the wiki to sign up to the mailing list

[17:37] MariaKeet: FL: on difference between committee members and mailing list members? same?

[17:37] MariaKeet: FL: esp. w.r.t. making decisions

[17:38] MariaKeet: MK: small enough for now

[17:40] MariaKeet: MK: put point on agenda for next meeting, when there will be more people

[17:40] MariaKeet: === public vs private mailing list archives ===

[17:41] MariaKeet: FL: some things not suitable for public archive. how to deal with this?

[17:41] MariaKeet: FL: e.g., on the summerschool draft details, isn't exactly public material

[17:42] MariaKeet: FL: ties in with the members & followers points

[17:43] MariaKeet: ZW: let's first try with emails. if that doesn't work, the private mailing list

[17:43] MariaKeet: === footer ====

[17:44] MariaKeet: FL: new footer done

[17:44] MariaKeet: === AOB ===

[17:45] MariaKeet: next meeting: jan 6

[17:46] MariaKeet: FL: write email to ask if starting an hour earlier is ok

[17:47] Zena morphed into ZenaWood

[17:47] FrankLoebe: .
== participants ==
MK Maria Keet
FL Frank Loebe
ZW Zena Wood

[17:48] FrankLoebe: < session ends >


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