From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Mon Oct 6 22:38:05 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:38:05 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] OntoIOp teleconference (n.65): Wed 2014.10.08 Message-ID: <5432FDAD.4060901@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Dear all, our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.65) is coming up this Wednesday, Oct-08. The topics are: - report from OMG meeting - time plan for OMG submission in mid-November - incompatibilities between DOL and titling in Common Logic (see mail by John Sowa) - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. Main differences: new terminology regarding libraries and distributed OMS; expansion mechanism for "no prefix" CURIEs on p.44. All the best, Till = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.65) - Wed 2014.10.08 = < * Date: Wed 08-Oct-2014 * start-time: 8:00am PDT / 11:00 pm EDT / 4:00pm BST / 5:00pm CEST / 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 UTC ** ref. world clock - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=8&year=2014&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. * shared-file workspace: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-08_team-confcall_n.65/ * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141008 Remarks: * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. 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In looking at the document, the only uses I can see of a library are: 1. putting a label on a (possibly structured) collection of OMS, distributed OMS, mappings and queries, which could be used in metadata. 2. a convenience syntax for applying qualifications to a number of OMS, or whatevers, at once. If these are the intended uses of libraries, then this labeling system can surely co-exist with CL2 titlings and importations. Tara On 10/6/14, 4:38 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote: > Dear all, > > our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.65) is coming up this > Wednesday, Oct-08. > > The topics are: > - report from OMG meeting > - time plan for OMG submission in mid-November > - incompatibilities between DOL and titling in Common Logic (see mail by > John Sowa) > - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) > - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) > > The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. > Main differences: new terminology regarding libraries and distributed > OMS; expansion mechanism for "no prefix" CURIEs on p.44. > > All the best, > Till > > > = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.65) - Wed 2014.10.08 = > < > * Date: Wed 08-Oct-2014 > * start-time: 8:00am PDT / 11:00 pm EDT / 4:00pm BST / 5:00pm CEST / > 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 UTC > ** ref. world clock - > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=8&year=2014&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 > * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. > * shared-file workspace: > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-08_team-confcall_n.65/ > * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141008 > > > Remarks: > > * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. 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URL: From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Wed Oct 8 18:31:33 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:31:33 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] ontoiop_20141008: Chat Transcript Message-ID: <543566E5.3030703@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> *Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20141008* *2014-10-08 GMT-08:00* *[08:03] **TillMossakowski: *topics: - report from OMG meeting - time plan for OMG submission in mid-November - incompatibilities between DOL and titling in Common Logic (see mail by John Sowa) - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) *[08:09] **ChristophLange: *Hi, sorry for joining late *[08:16] **TerryLongstreth: *filter - interested in residue? *[08:20] **TerryLongstreth: *input -> FILTER v-> output ->residue (left behind) *[08:22] *anonymous morphed into ConradBock *[08:24] **TillMossakowski: *OMS filter_out dog -- remove all axioms involving dog *[08:25] **TillMossakowski: *OMS select dog -- keep exactly all axioms involving dog *[08:25] **YAZMIN: *isn't that module extraction in some way ? *[08:27] **TillMossakowski: *it is a crude way of module extraction. Module extraction is given by OMS extract dog, which also adds axioms that indirectly axiomatize the concept dog. *[08:28] **TillMossakowski: *OMS reject dog ? *[08:28] **TillMossakowski: *OMS exclude dog *[08:29] **TillMossakowski: *"OMS include dog" instead of "OMS select dog" *[08:30] **TaraAthan: *@Till the suggestion is to have dual pairs: either include/exclude or select/reject. But to me, include is more of a cumulative process. *[08:31] **TerryLongstreth: *Also, if you want to retain both parts, you could use 'divide' *[08:32] **FabianNeuhaus: *Agreement: select/reject *[08:32] **TillMossakowski: *we conclude: select/reject *[08:32] **TerryLongstreth: *That would be a useful facility, to for example, create smaller modules *[08:33] **TerryLongstreth: *re: divide *[08:33] **MihaiCodescu: *select appears in the language for queries *[08:33] **TillMossakowski: *topic: OMG submission *[08:33] **TillMossakowski: *see https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues *[08:36] **ChristophLange: *I can hear you. I can dial in once more maybe *[08:36] **TillMossakowski: *Christoph, would you agree to work on issue https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues/62 ? *[08:37] **ChristophLange: *ok *[08:37] **MihaiCodescu: *yes, I am here, I can hear you *[08:38] **ChristophLange: *What is again the deadline? Both the hard deadline for submitting to OMG, and the soft deadline for giving the other group members a chance to check? *[08:39] **MihaiCodescu: *yes, I can do issue 57 *[08:39] **TillMossakowski: *Mihai, please have a look at https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues/57 *[08:39] **TillMossakowski: *the hard deadline is November 8 *[08:40] **MihaiCodescu: *OK with the deadlines *[08:40] **TillMossakowski: *the internal deadline is November 1 *[08:40] **ChristophLange: *ok. For me (proposal deadline on Oct 31) maybe Nov 1 in a very late Pacific timezone ;-) *[08:41] **MihaiCodescu: *maybe Oliver can do this *[08:41] **ChristophLange: *re 55: would be good if you (Till et al.) could take care of the "logic" aspect of the conformance (as you've covered this in your previous papers). "My" expertise is rather about URIs, concrete syntaxes, etc. *[08:42] **ChristophLange: *52: fine with me *[08:42] **TillMossakowski: *OK *[08:44] **ChristophLange: *Feel free to assign stuff to me. I think I won't be able to do everything, but in the next few days I'll check my list of assignments and will comment at least on those I don't like. *[08:45] **MihaiCodescu: *I can do issue 42 *[08:45] **MihaiCodescu: *I could laso do 36 *[08:50] **MihaiCodescu: *I can do issue 28 *[08:51] **MihaiCodescu: *yes i can do issue 26 *[08:56] **TillMossakowski: *distributed OMS -> OMS network *[08:58] **ChristophLange: *Generally I'd rather like to focus (for lack of time) on those things where I'm really our best expert. But, as I said, I'll review my assignments and probably reject some of them within a few days. *[08:58] **ChristophLange: *(My previous comment was about "normative references") *[09:02] **TerryLongstreth: *Sorry, I accidently disconnected. *[09:02] **ChristophLange: *1 hour earlier won't work for me. 45 minutes earlier will -- so should still be OK *[09:13] **TillMossakowski: *next meeting (tentative time): next week, one hour earlier. 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URL: From math.semantic.web at gmail.com Wed Oct 8 18:43:01 2014 From: math.semantic.web at gmail.com (Christoph LANGE) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:43:01 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB Message-ID: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> Hi all, [@Tara plus maybe @Elisa: something specifically for you about API4KB below] at http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/content/ontoiop-registry-?-dataset-supporting-ontology-model-and-specification-integration-and (interesting, a URL with a Unicode "em dash") there is a paper submission by me, Till and Oliver, describing the OntoIOp Registry from a linked dataset perspective. It was a last-minute effort before an individually extended deadline, so we had no chance to have a deeper interaction in this community _before_ submission. However, I believe that two issues are of more general interest, so why not discuss them now. Hoping that the paper will not be rejected (I am reasonably confident about it, was we have "ticked" many of the "boxes" by which a linked dataset is measured), we will then still have the chance to "fix" them in the next round of the submission process. 1. License of the dataset: A linked open dataset should have a license, which you usually choose from a small set of well-known licenses depending on your requirements. After some initial research I found the following ones appropriate. BTW whatever the license, no one will be able to _mess_ with _the_ _real_ registry at its official URI=URL anyway, as we own the http://purl.net/dol redirect. I think the "reuse" scenario of incorporating variants of data from the Registry, or the republication of dumps of the registry (possible in alternative formats) is the more likely scenario. I believe that a share-alike license is too restrictive, so two reasonable ones remain: http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/ (summary at http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/summary/) ? permits pretty much anything but requires attribution of the original source (I guess something like "derived from the OntoIOp Registry, (c) the OntoIOp WG"). http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ ? public domain = anything allowed. Just that there is a more water-tight legal framework, i.e. the CC0 license is safer than just attaching a string "public domain". Do you have any opinions? I hope this won't be too hard a decision, but should be taken by consensus. 2. API4KB's OntoIOp Terminology ontology (https://github.com/API4KBs/api4kbs/blob/master/ontologies/OntoIOpTerminology.rdf) and its relation to LoLa: LoLa plays a role in the paper in that it is the vocabulary of the "OntoIOp Registry" dataset in its current state. The "OntoIOp Terminology" ontology (@Tara: Till made me aware of it, and I've had a first look) appears to be very similar ? but may have been designed to be different in order to support different use cases (of which I am not fully aware, but happy to learn). In the paper I promised (and thus have to do it within a few days, before the reviewers are assigned) that I would, because of this similarity, align LoLa with the OntoIOp Terminology. I'm planning to drop several "LoLaConcept EquivalentClass OntoIOpTerminologyConcept" links into LoLa and then point you to them as a basis for a further alignment discussion. Does this make sense? Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 ? SEMANTiCS conference: Transfer?Engineering?Community. Leipzig, Germany, 4?5 September (workshops 1?3 September). Including Vocabulary Carnival, LOD for SMEs, Linked Data Quality. From peter.yim at cim3.com Wed Oct 8 21:33:03 2014 From: peter.yim at cim3.com (Peter Yim) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:33:03 -0700 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB In-Reply-To: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> References: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Christoph and All, Thank you very much for the input and the well thought through recommendations. In particular, re. choice of license ... > [CL] 1. License of the dataset: A linked open dataset should have a license, which you usually choose from a small set of well-known licenses depending on your requirements. After some initial research I found the following ones appropriate. ... I believe that a share-alike license is too restrictive, so ... [ppy] +1 on your disposition ... thank you for doing the research; I applaud your recommendation. > [CL] ... so two reasonable ones remain ... [ ODC 1.0 or CC0] [ppy] besides those two, one might also consider "CC BY 4.0" - see: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Depending on the preference of the majority of the OntoIOp WG/community, I would be happy with anyone of these three choices - ODC-1.0, CC0 OR CC-BY-4.0 ... personally, if we are taking a poll, then I would vote for CC-BY-4.0. Thanks and regards. =ppy -- On Oct 8, 2014 9:43 AM, "Christoph LANGE" wrote: > > Hi all, > > [@Tara plus maybe @Elisa: something specifically for you about API4KB below] > > at http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/content/ontoiop-registry-?-dataset-supporting-ontology-model-and-specification-integration-and (interesting, a URL with a Unicode "em dash") there is a paper submission by me, Till and Oliver, describing the OntoIOp Registry from a linked dataset perspective. > > It was a last-minute effort before an individually extended deadline, so we had no chance to have a deeper interaction in this community _before_ submission. > > However, I believe that two issues are of more general interest, so why not discuss them now. Hoping that the paper will not be rejected (I am reasonably confident about it, was we have "ticked" many of the "boxes" by which a linked dataset is measured), we will then still have the chance to "fix" them in the next round of the submission process. > > 1. License of the dataset: A linked open dataset should have a license, which you usually choose from a small set of well-known licenses depending on your requirements. After some initial research I found the following ones appropriate. BTW whatever the license, no one will be able to _mess_ with _the_ _real_ registry at its official URI=URL anyway, as we own the http://purl.net/dol redirect. I think the "reuse" scenario of incorporating variants of data from the Registry, or the republication of dumps of the registry (possible in alternative formats) is the more likely scenario. I believe that a share-alike license is too restrictive, so two reasonable ones remain: > > http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/ (summary at http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/summary/) ? permits pretty much anything but requires attribution of the original source (I guess something like "derived from the OntoIOp Registry, (c) the OntoIOp WG"). > > http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ ? public domain = anything allowed. Just that there is a more water-tight legal framework, i.e. the CC0 license is safer than just attaching a string "public domain". > > Do you have any opinions? I hope this won't be too hard a decision, but should be taken by consensus. > > 2. API4KB's OntoIOp Terminology ontology ( https://github.com/API4KBs/api4kbs/blob/master/ontologies/OntoIOpTerminology.rdf) and its relation to LoLa: LoLa plays a role in the paper in that it is the vocabulary of the "OntoIOp Registry" dataset in its current state. The "OntoIOp Terminology" ontology (@Tara: Till made me aware of it, and I've had a first look) appears to be very similar ? but may have been designed to be different in order to support different use cases (of which I am not fully aware, but happy to learn). In the paper I promised (and thus have to do it within a few days, before the reviewers are assigned) that I would, because of this similarity, align LoLa with the OntoIOp Terminology. I'm planning to drop several "LoLaConcept EquivalentClass OntoIOpTerminologyConcept" links into LoLa and then point you to them as a basis for a further alignment discussion. Does this make sense? > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > -- > Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department > Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS > http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 > > ? 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URL: From math.semantic.web at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 21:21:36 2014 From: math.semantic.web at gmail.com (Christoph LANGE) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:21:36 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB In-Reply-To: References: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5436E040.7080201@gmail.com> Hi Peter, Peter Yim on 2014-10-08 21:33: > > [CL] ... so two reasonable ones remain ... [ ODC 1.0 or CC0] > > [ppy] besides those two, one might also consider "CC BY 4.0" - see: > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ For data, the normal CC licenses are rather being advised against. I didn't exactly know why. However I found help here: http://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/26/benefits-of-using-cc0-over-cc-by-for-data http://www.canadensys.net/2012/why-we-should-publish-our-data-under-cc0 (specifically addresses CC-BY). In a nutshell: For data, licenses that were not designed for data, have impractical constraints. CC0 is actually more of a waiver than a license; it basically says "do whatever you want with the data". ODC-By, like CC-BY, requires attribution, which may lead to the problem of "attribution stacking" when republishing derivatives of data based on a republication of derivatives of other data. However, the attribution requirement of ODC-By is easier to satisfy than that of CC-BY. CC-BY says that "you must provide the name of the creator and attribution parties, a copyright notice, a license notice, a disclaimer notice, and a link to the material". ODC-By makes this a lot simpler: you only have to refer to the _dataset_ by name, e.g. "Contains information from the OntoIOp Registry (http://purl.net/dol/registry) which is made available under the ODC Attribution License". I personally prefer CC0. CC0 makes it easiest to reuse our data, and we certainly want to promote the reuse of our data. ODC-By has the advantage of advertising our dataset, but OTOH we are deploying the OntoIOp Registry as a _linked_ open dataset, in which particularly every item has a link back to the top level of the dataset. Plus, the OntoIOp Registry URIs (e.g. http://purl.net/dol/logics/SROIQ) will soon point to Ontohub, where human visitors won't see RDF/XML but shiny HTML. Ontohub currently advertises the OOR in its page footer; maybe it could also say "powered by OntoIOp". Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 ? Postdoc position on Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration with the EIS group at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS (Bonn, Germany) http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs ? apply until 7 November From peter.yim at cim3.com Thu Oct 9 22:02:25 2014 From: peter.yim at cim3.com (Peter Yim) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:02:25 -0700 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] Choice of Use License [was: "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB] Message-ID: Hi Christoph & All, 1. As mentioned, I am happy with CC0 too. 2. Since "CC BY 4.0" had made improvement to cover "data" more adequately (which were lacking in "CC BY 3.0" or previous versions)[1]. I believe "reservations" from the data community to use "CC BY" only applies to "CC BY 3.0" or previous versions. [1] The main improvements of CC 4.0 compared with CC 3.0. CC 4.0 is that it now covers database rights, also known as sui generis database rights ... ref. http://blogs.biomedcentral.com/bmcblog/2013/12/18/cc-by-4-0/ & https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Data 3. I prefer "CC BY 4.0" - the "BY" in particular - because it still provides "Attribution" while allowing people to do whatever they need to do with the data (the license is a "gift" license, and "not viral"). 4. I prefer "CC BY 4.0" - the "CC" in particular - because it has been around for quite a while, properly maintained. It has a great track record and was created/supported by some of the folks (like Larry Lessig and John Wilbanks) whom I have a lot of respect for. see also: https://creativecommons.org/about/history & https://creativecommons.org/tag/milestone 5. Besides the above reason, see also: https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Data#What_is_the_difference_between_the_Open_Data_Commons_licenses_and_the_CC_4.0_licenses.3F 6. While "attribution stacking" may need some (but probably not a huge) effort to maintain, I think it is only fair to those (like OntoIOp WG members) who have spent an inordinate amount of time and energy into creating those data and content, to be properly attributed. Again, I defer to the majority preference of the team and the community. Regards. =ppy -- On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Christoph LANGE wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Peter Yim on 2014-10-08 21:33: >> > [CL] ... so two reasonable ones remain ... [ ODC 1.0 or CC0] >> >> [ppy] besides those two, one might also consider "CC BY 4.0" - see: >> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ > > For data, the normal CC licenses are rather being advised against. > > I didn't exactly know why. However I found help here: > > http://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/26/benefits-of-using-cc0-over-cc-by-for-data > > http://www.canadensys.net/2012/why-we-should-publish-our-data-under-cc0 > (specifically addresses CC-BY). > > In a nutshell: For data, licenses that were not designed for data, have > impractical constraints. > > CC0 is actually more of a waiver than a license; it basically says "do > whatever you want with the data". > > ODC-By, like CC-BY, requires attribution, which may lead to the problem of > "attribution stacking" when republishing derivatives of data based on a > republication of derivatives of other data. However, the attribution > requirement of ODC-By is easier to satisfy than that of CC-BY. CC-BY says > that "you must provide the name of the creator and attribution parties, a > copyright notice, a license notice, a disclaimer notice, and a link to the > material". ODC-By makes this a lot simpler: you only have to refer to the > _dataset_ by name, e.g. "Contains information from the OntoIOp Registry > (http://purl.net/dol/registry) which is made available under the ODC > Attribution License". > > I personally prefer CC0. CC0 makes it easiest to reuse our data, and we > certainly want to promote the reuse of our data. ODC-By has the advantage > of advertising our dataset, but OTOH we are deploying the OntoIOp Registry > as a _linked_ open dataset, in which particularly every item has a link back > to the top level of the dataset. Plus, the OntoIOp Registry URIs (e.g. > http://purl.net/dol/logics/SROIQ) will soon point to Ontohub, where human > visitors won't see RDF/XML but shiny HTML. Ontohub currently advertises the > OOR in its page footer; maybe it could also say "powered by OntoIOp". > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > -- > Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department > Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS > http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 > > ? Postdoc position on Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration > with the EIS group at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS (Bonn, Germany) > http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs ? apply until 7 November ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Yim Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [ontoiop-forum] "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB To: ontoiop-forum at ovgu.de Dear Christoph and All, Thank you very much for the input and the well thought through recommendations. In particular, re. choice of license ... > [CL] 1. License of the dataset: A linked open dataset should have a license, which you usually choose from a small set of well-known licenses depending on your requirements. After some initial research I found the following ones appropriate. ... I believe that a share-alike license is too restrictive, so ... [ppy] +1 on your disposition ... thank you for doing the research; I applaud your recommendation. > [CL] ... so two reasonable ones remain ... [ ODC 1.0 or CC0] [ppy] besides those two, one might also consider "CC BY 4.0" - see: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Depending on the preference of the majority of the OntoIOp WG/community, I would be happy with anyone of these three choices - ODC-1.0, CC0 OR CC-BY-4.0 ... personally, if we are taking a poll, then I would vote for CC-BY-4.0. Thanks and regards. =ppy -- > _________________________________________________________________ > To Post: mailto:ontoiop-forum at ovgu.de > Message Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/ontoiop-forum > Config/Unsubscribe: https://listserv.ovgu.de/mailman/listinfo/ontoiop-forum > Community Files (open): http://interop.cim3.net/file/pub/OntoIOp/ > Community Wiki: http://ontoiop.org From math.semantic.web at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 22:36:51 2014 From: math.semantic.web at gmail.com (Christoph LANGE) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:36:51 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] Postdoc position on Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS Message-ID: <5436F1E3.7050809@gmail.com> *** One or more Post-doctoral Researcher / Research Group Leader position in Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration *** at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS (Bonn, Germany) The Enterprise Information Systems (EIS) group at the University of Bonn [1] and the Organized Knowledge department at Fraunhofer IAIS [2] are hiring a postdoc [3]. We are running several research projects on applying Linked Data technology to information integration in enterprises and other organisations. The ideal candidate holds a doctoral degree in computer science or a related field and is able to combine theoretical and practical aspects in her/his work. The candidate should have a track record in at least three (and be committed to expand it to more) of the following areas: * publication in renowned journals/conferences * proven software engineering skills * successful student supervision * close collaboration with other groups/companies/organisations * successful competition for funding * transfer and commercialisation of research results *Fluent communication in English and German is a fundamental requirement.* (If you do not speak German, note that we are also happy to support strong candidates in applying for a fellowship with us.) The candidate should have experience and commitment to work on the forefront of research in one of the following fields: * semantic web technologies and linked data * knowledge representations and ontology engineering * software engineering and modern application development * database technologies and data integration * HCI and user interface design for Web content * data analytics All details can be found at: http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs.html We provide a scientifically and intellectually inspiring environment with an entrepreneurial mindset embedded in a world-leading university and one of the largest applied research organizations (Fraunhofer). Bonn, the former West German capital city on the banks of the Rhine river is located right next to Germany's fourth largest city Cologne; it offers an outstanding quality of life, has developed into a hub of international cooperation and is in easy reach of many European metropoles. The position starts as soon as possible, is open until filled (for full consideration please apply until 7 November) and will be granted initially for 2 years with envisioned extension. Please send your CV, an English writing sample (e.g. your master thesis or a publication), a letter of reference and a short motivational statement (incl. research and technology interests) to eis-leaders at lists.iai.uni-bonn.de. We also always happy to support strong candidates in applying for Marie Sk?odowska Curie Individual Fellowships (MSCA-IF; next deadline 9 September 2015). [1] http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/ [2] https://www.iais.fraunhofer.de/index.php?id=5988&L=1 [3] http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs.html -- Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 ? Postdoc position on Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration with the EIS group at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS (Bonn, Germany) http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs ? apply until 7 November From math.semantic.web at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 00:25:29 2014 From: math.semantic.web at gmail.com (Christoph LANGE) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:25:29 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] Working on GitHub issues; do we have all issues there? Message-ID: <54370B59.3050707@gmail.com> Hi Till, I started to work a bit on the GitHub issues (https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues/). I remembered that in the old SVN repository we had a file https://svn-agbkb.informatik.uni-bremen.de/sfb-repos/Projects/I1_OntoSpace/standards/OntoIOp/todos-Madrid2012.txt, which also contained to-dos beyond the ednotes in the document. Are all of these to-dos now being taken care of? Maybe they should also be turned into issues. (Unfortunately I can't volunteer for _doing_ this.) Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 ? Postdoc position on Linked Data / Enterprise Information Integration with the EIS group at Uni Bonn & Fraunhofer IAIS (Bonn, Germany) http://eis.iai.uni-bonn.de/Jobs ? apply until 7 November From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Fri Oct 10 09:13:29 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:13:29 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] Working on GitHub issues; do we have all issues there? In-Reply-To: <54370B59.3050707@gmail.com> References: <54370B59.3050707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54378719.5050102@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Hi Christoph, right, I will go over these and turn the relevant ones into issues. However, I expect that there won't be much relevant ones anymore. Best, Till Am 10.10.2014 00:25, schrieb Christoph LANGE: > Hi Till, > > I started to work a bit on the GitHub issues > (https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues/). I remembered that in the old > SVN repository we had a file > https://svn-agbkb.informatik.uni-bremen.de/sfb-repos/Projects/I1_OntoSpace/standards/OntoIOp/todos-Madrid2012.txt, > which also contained to-dos beyond the ednotes in the document. Are > all of these to-dos now being taken care of? Maybe they should also > be turned into issues. (Unfortunately I can't volunteer for _doing_ > this.) > > Cheers, > > Christoph > From math.semantic.web at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 11:07:58 2014 From: math.semantic.web at gmail.com (Christoph LANGE) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:07:58 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] "Dataset description" paper about the OntoIOp registry submitted: questions about license and API4KB In-Reply-To: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> References: <54356995.1020703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5437A1EE.8010806@gmail.com> Hi Tara, hi Elisa, On 2014-10-08 18:43, Christoph LANGE wrote: > 2. API4KB's OntoIOp Terminology ontology > (https://github.com/API4KBs/api4kbs/blob/master/ontologies/OntoIOpTerminology.rdf) > and its relation to LoLa: LoLa plays a role in the paper in that it is > the vocabulary of the "OntoIOp Registry" dataset in its current state. > The "OntoIOp Terminology" ontology (@Tara: Till made me aware of it, and > I've had a first look) appears to be very similar ? but may have been > designed to be different in order to support different use cases (of > which I am not fully aware, but happy to learn). In the paper I > promised (and thus have to do it within a few days, before the reviewers > are assigned) that I would, because of this similarity, align LoLa with > the OntoIOp Terminology. I'm planning to drop several "LoLaConcept > EquivalentClass OntoIOpTerminologyConcept" links into LoLa and then > point you to them as a basis for a further alignment discussion. This alignment is now done; please check https://github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/blob/master/lola/ontology/dol-rdf.omn for all occurrences of "ontoiop-trm". I encountered some problems, which I pointed out as comments near these occurrences. Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Lange, Enterprise Information Systems Department Applied Computer Science @ University of Bonn; Fraunhofer IAIS http://langec.wordpress.com/about, Skype duke4701 ? SEMANTiCS conference: Transfer?Engineering?Community. Leipzig, Germany, 4?5 September (workshops 1?3 September). Including Vocabulary Carnival, LOD for SMEs, Linked Data Quality. From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Tue Oct 14 18:14:03 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:14:03 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] OntoIOp teleconference (n.66): Wed 2014.10.15 - one hour earlier as usual! Message-ID: <543D4BCB.5060108@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> [ Please fill in doodle at http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 ] Dear all, since we have decided to have a weekly telcon until the OMG submission on November 10, our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.66) is coming up this Wednesday, Oct-15. Note: start time one hour earlier! The topics are: - status of issues, see https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) - new time for OntoIOp meetings - please fill in the doodle: http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. All the best, Till = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.66) - Wed 2014.10.15 = < * Date: Wed 15-Oct-2014 * start-time: 7:00am PDT / 10:00 pm EDT / 3:00pm BST / 4:00pm CEST / 4:00pm SAST / 11:00pm [+1] KST / 14:00 UTC ** ref. world clock - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=15&year=2014&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. * shared-file workspace: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-15_team-confcall_n.66/ * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141015 Remarks: * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their participation at the session. * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute Dial-in: * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# * Skype: "join.conference" ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out or google-voice and call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. 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Regards, Maria ________________________________________ From: ontoiop-forum-bounces at ovgu.de [ontoiop-forum-bounces at ovgu.de] on behalf of Till Mossakowski [mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de] Sent: 14 October 2014 06:14 PM To: OntoIOp open discussion Subject: [ontoiop-forum] OntoIOp teleconference (n.66): Wed 2014.10.15 - one hour earlier as usual! [ Please fill in doodle at http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 ] Dear all, since we have decided to have a weekly telcon until the OMG submission on November 10, our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.66) is coming up this Wednesday, Oct-15. Note: start time one hour earlier! The topics are: - status of issues, see https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) - new time for OntoIOp meetings - please fill in the doodle: http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. All the best, Till = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.66) - Wed 2014.10.15 = < * Date: Wed 15-Oct-2014 * start-time: 7:00am PDT / 10:00 pm EDT / 3:00pm BST / 4:00pm CEST / 4:00pm SAST / 11:00pm [+1] KST / 14:00 UTC ** ref. world clock - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=15&year=2014&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. * shared-file workspace: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-15_team-confcall_n.66/ * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141015 Remarks: * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their participation at the session. * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute Dial-in: * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# * Skype: "join.conference" ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out or google-voice and call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. (--CLange) Talk to you all then! ________________________________ UNIVERSITY OF CAPE TOWN This e-mail is subject to the UCT ICT policies and e-mail disclaimer published on our website at http://www.uct.ac.za/about/policies/emaildisclaimer/ or obtainable from +27 21 650 9111. This e-mail is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If the e-mail has reached you in error, please notify the author. If you are not the intended recipient of the e-mail you may not use, disclose, copy, redirect or print the content. If this e-mail is not related to the business of UCT it is sent by the sender in the sender's individual capacity. From taraathan at gmail.com Wed Oct 15 15:47:53 2014 From: taraathan at gmail.com (Tara Athan) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:47:53 -0400 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] OntoIOp teleconference (n.66): Wed 2014.10.15 - one hour earlier as usual! In-Reply-To: <543D4BCB.5060108@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <543D4BCB.5060108@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <543E7B09.2030302@gmail.com> Regrets for today. I haven't completed my issue, but I'll take care of it for the next session. Tara On 10/14/14, 12:14 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote: > [ Please fill in doodle at http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 ] > > Dear all, > > since we have decided to have a weekly telcon until the OMG submission > on November 10, our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.66) is coming > up this Wednesday, Oct-15. Note: start time one hour earlier! > > The topics are: > - status of issues, see https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues > - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) > - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) > - new time for OntoIOp meetings - please fill in the doodle: > http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 > > The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. > > All the best, > Till > > > = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.66) - Wed 2014.10.15 = > < > * Date: Wed 15-Oct-2014 > * start-time: 7:00am PDT / 10:00 pm EDT / 3:00pm BST / 4:00pm CEST / > 4:00pm SAST / 11:00pm [+1] KST / 14:00 UTC > ** ref. world clock - > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=15&year=2014&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 > * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. > * shared-file workspace: > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-15_team-confcall_n.66/ > * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141015 > > > Remarks: > > * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless > otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of > their participation at the session. > > * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) > - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute > > Dial-in: > * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > * Skype: "join.conference" > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding > up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your > phone, skype-out or google-voice and > call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & > UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ > ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be > under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" > ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the > call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. (--CLange) > > > Talk to you all then! > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To Post: mailto:ontoiop-forum at ovgu.de > Message Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/ontoiop-forum > Config/Unsubscribe: https://listserv.ovgu.de/mailman/listinfo/ontoiop-forum > Community Files (open): http://interop.cim3.net/file/pub/OntoIOp/ > Community Wiki: http://ontoiop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Wed Oct 15 16:17:22 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:17:22 +0200 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] OntoIOp teleconference (n.66): Wed 2014.10.15 - one hour earlier as usual! In-Reply-To: <543D4BCB.5060108@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <543D4BCB.5060108@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <543E81F2.90505@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Please find attached the latest syntax presentation slides. Best, Till Am 14.10.2014 18:14, schrieb Till Mossakowski: > [ Please fill in doodle at http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 ] > > Dear all, > > since we have decided to have a weekly telcon until the OMG submission > on November 10, our next OntoIOp team conference call (n.66) is coming > up this Wednesday, Oct-15. Note: start time one hour earlier! > > The topics are: > - status of issues, see https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues > - chapter 9 of the document (abstract syntax) > - chapter 10 of the document (concrete syntax) > - new time for OntoIOp meetings - please fill in the doodle: > http://doodle.com/qgwaanqhukzn9az4 > > The document (revised according to the latest discussions) is attached. > > All the best, > Till > > > = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.66) - Wed 2014.10.15 = > < > * Date: Wed 15-Oct-2014 > * start-time: 7:00am PDT / 10:00 pm EDT / 3:00pm BST / 4:00pm CEST / > 4:00pm SAST / 11:00pm [+1] KST / 14:00 UTC > ** ref. world clock - > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=15&year=2014&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 > * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. > * shared-file workspace: > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-15_team-confcall_n.66/ > * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141015 > > > Remarks: > > * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless > otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of > their participation at the session. > > * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) > - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute > > Dial-in: > * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > * Skype: "join.conference" > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding > up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your > phone, skype-out or google-voice and > call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & > UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ > ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be > under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" > ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the > call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. 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Do we have a decision on that? *[07:13] **FabianNeuhaus: *(I am trying to avoid a conflict with OntoIOp) *[07:19] **MichaelGruninger: *@Fabian: No, there was no talk about moving meetings, since nobody had any conflicts with the current schedule *[07:31] **TillMossakowski1: *example of minimize with synatx of p.41: *[07:31] **TillMossakowski1: *ontology Blocks_Alternative = Class: Block Class: Ab Individual: B1 Types: Block, Ab Individual: B2 Types: Block DifferentFrom: B1 %% B1 and B2 are different blocks %% B1 is abnormal Class: Ontable Class: BlockNotAb EquivalentTo: Block and not Ab SubClassOf: Ontable %% Normally, a block is on the table minimize Ab var Ontable then %implies Individual: B2 Types: Ontable %% B2 is on the table end *[07:35] **ChristophLange1: *couldn't make it earlier today. 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All the best, Till = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.67) - Mon 2014.10.27 = < * Date: Wed 27-Oct-2014 * start-time: 9:00am PDT / 12:00 pm EDT / 4:00pm GMT / 5:00pm CET / 6:00pm SAST / 1:00am KST / 16:00 UTC ** ref. world clock - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=27&year=2014&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 * Duration: 1~1.5 Hrs. * shared-file workspace: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-10-27_team-confcall_n.67/ * chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20141027 Remarks: * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their participation at the session. * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute Dial-in: * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# * Skype: "join.conference" ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out or google-voice and call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. 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Unless > otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of > their participation at the session. > > * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) > - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute > > Dial-in: > * Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > * Skype: "join.conference" > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** in case your skype connection to "joinconference" is not holding > up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your > phone, skype-out or google-voice and > call the US dial-in number: +1 (425) 440-5100 > ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 843758# > ** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada & > UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ > ** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be > under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" > ** for Linux Skype users: if the dialpad button is not shown in the > call window you need to press the "d" hotkey to enable it. (--CLange) > > > Talk to you all then! From mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Mon Oct 27 17:50:50 2014 From: mossakow at iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Till Mossakowski) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:50:50 +0100 Subject: [ontoiop-forum] ontoiop_20141027: Chat Transcript - sent by: TillMossakowski Message-ID: <544E77EA.7040006@iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> *Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20141027* *2014-10-27 GMT-08:00* *[08:22] **TerryLongstreth: *Wel-l-l-l here I am. Confused by the time change. *[09:00] *anonymous morphed into MihaiCodescu *[09:00] *anonymous morphed into ConradBock *[09:00] **TerryLongstreth: *I'll phone in in a about 5 minutes *[09:01] *anonymous morphed into ConradBock1 *[09:01] *ConradBock1 morphed into ConradBock *[09:02] **FabianNeuhaus: *does anybody else have problems with skype? *[09:03] **ChristophLange: *Hi all, I'm sorry but I can't make it today. I am online and can follow this chat, but I am in a proposal writing meeting (deadline Friday this week). Realistically, my OntoIOp work will have to be done after Friday. *[09:04] **TillMossakowski: *https://github.com/tillmo/DOL/issues *[09:05] **TillMossakowski: *@Christoph: will you able to close all 11 tickets this week? *[09:12] **YAZMIN: *sorry *[09:13] **YAZMIN: *I know, i just type there by mistake *[09:15] **TerryLongstreth: *on issue 68, I discovered that proofing was hard with so many unconsolidated comments. *[09:40] *List of attendees: ChristophLange, ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus, MihaiCodescu, OliverKutz, StefanoBorgo, TerryLongstreth, TillMossakowski, YAZMIN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: