[iaoa-swao] IAOA SWAO SIG telecon of September 9, 2014 raw chat

[Obrst, Leo J.]

IAOA SWAO SIG telecon of September 9, 2014 raw chat

[9:50] anonymous morphed into MikeDean
[10:04] MikeBennett: Apologies:
[10:04] MikeBennett: AndreaWesterinen, NaicongLi
[10:06] MikeBennett: Housekeeping
Updates on website, wiki, email list
Continue our discussion on creating an introductory online/training tutorial
 Update on actions from last time
Feedback to Education Committee of our discussions from last meeting
"Gentle introduction to ontologies"  did we get this yet?
 Liaison with Education Committee  Update
Tutorial / training requirements
Target audiences  what do different groups need to see?
Target media  what do we want to be able to put out?
 White paper for business people
Book  longer term ambition?
Existing resources we would want to collate and promote
 See list of existing and upcoming publications we identified last time
Should we aim to maintain a library  or is that in hand via Education Committee?
In particular with reference to our mission to bridge the gaps between communities
Discussion on an issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology related to reuse and lessons learned
Ontology Summit
Extending and discussing the work of 2014 Ontology Summit
Ideas for 2015 Ontology Summit?
Membership, recruitment etc.
Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG and reach out them to make them aware of our existence and maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat
Establish knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests
AOB
Next Meeting
[10:06] MikeBennett: Housekeeping
Updates on website, wiki, email list
Continue our discussion on creating an introductory online/training tutorial
 Update on actions from last time
Feedback to Education Committee of our discussions from last meeting
"Gentle introduction to ontologies"  did we get this yet?
 Liaison with Education Committee  Update
Tutorial / training requirements
Target audiences  what do different groups need to see?
Target media  what do we want to be able to put out?
 White paper for business people
Book  longer term ambition?
Existing resources we would want to collate and promote
 See list of existing and upcoming publications we identified last time
Should we aim to maintain a library  or is that in hand via Education Committee?
In particular with reference to our mission to bridge the gaps between communities
Discussion on an issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology related to reuse and lessons learned
Ontology Summit
Extending and discussing the work of 2014 Ontology Summit
Ideas for 2015 Ontology Summit?
Membership, recruitment etc.
Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG and reach out them to make them aware of our existence and maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat
Establish knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests
AOB
Next Meeting
[10:10] MikeBennett: Housekeeping
[10:13] MikeBennett: Mb hives a quick update
[10:13] KenBaclawski: MikeBennett reported on updates to the website, wiki and email list.
[10:13] KenBaclawski: MikeBennett reported on updates to the website, wiki and email list.
[10:15] LeoObrst: http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/wiki/IAOA_SWAO_SIG
[10:15] LeoObrst: http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/wiki/IAOA_SWAO_SIG
[10:16] MikeBennett: Speed of transfer from SWAO web link to this meeting, and the wiki page for this meeting. On some links (Leo) this take a long while. For MB's connection this was a little under a second.
[10:17] KenBaclawski: I will investigate this.
[10:18] MikeBennett: Check link from http://www.iaoa.org/ to our SWAO web
[10:19] MikeBennett: There are 3 issues:
[10:19] MikeBennett: No page about Semantic WebAppllied Ontology
[10:19] MikeBennett: Button at the top is misnamed (delete "meets")
[10:20] MikeBennett: and that button currently seems to invoke a script on the SIGDesign.php (is that a design for a script SIG or a SIG for design??)
[10:21] LeoObrst: Check with Oliver for fixing link of IAOA SIG page to SWAO home page.
[10:21] MikeBennett: Action: Follow up with Oliver the webmaster
[10:25] MikeBennett: === Agenda item: Education ===
[10:25] MikeBennett: Actions check: Action on getting feedback to the Education Committee
[10:27] MikeBennett: LO: this was discussed at the EC - short discussion. Short term objectives to gather syllabi from others, and also discussion on linking with the Ontology Summit, material for body of knowledge or text book, how format of Summit would work for that purpose. Compared with an earlier Summit "shaping the Ontologist of the Future" if the ontology Summit were to be about developing a book.
[10:27] MikeBennett: Summary: Our ideas were fed to the EC and seem to have gone a long way.
[10:27] MikeBennett: Education co-Chairs ar eMaria Keet andZena Wood
[10:29] MikeBennett: Education Commttee has not met yet, may consider a joint meeting with them. Or invite SWAO SIG members to the EdC next meeting
[10:29] MikeBennett: (or whatever we call it to disambiguate)
[10:31] LeoObrst: Leo will post email to EdC, EC, and SWAO sig, to get the discussion moving.
[10:34] MikeBennett: === Substantive ideas on Education ===
[10:35] MikeBennett: MarkFox raised the idea at the Ontology Summit symposium to crete a Gentle Introduction to Ontologie, and was going to have a try at this (this is how this bullet item has been on our agenda)
[10:35] MikeBennett: We want to try and have some of that available on line at IAOA somewhere, so people can find information at the horse's mouth as it were.
[10:36] MikeBennett: Other substantive ideas: possibility Ontology Summit 2015 addressing some of these themes.
[10:36] MikeBennett: Otherwise waiting on EduCtee before we do much more
[10:37] MikeBennett: Issue of Applied Ontology: We may need to lead an effort to dig in to what would be required on Applied Ontology special issue.
[10:37] MikeBennett: Leo can find out the mechanics of what we would need to do and what the time lines are, for there being a Special Issue.
[10:38] MikeBennett: We would probably have to consider creating a topic, putting out a Request for Papers etc.
[10:38] MikeBennett: if we want to do this we should consider convening a sub group e.g. now
[10:39] MikeBennett: Leo will find out these requirements from the editors (Musen, Guarino) on structure, lead times, schedule etc.
[10:40] MikeBennett: Structure is a bit like a workshop, we put out a CfP, then select and build an issue.  We would also have a list of people we can specifically call on and ask for contributors.
[10:40] MikeBennett: Assume focus is still on extending the activities of the 2014 Ontology Summit.
[10:41] MikeBennett: Yes it is - all agree: Special Issue would be on the theme of the 2014 Ontology Summit and carry this forward. Contributors from that summit could be approached for papers
[10:43] MikeBennett: Past Special Issue of Applied Ontology, the people who requested is typically act as editors for the content, and therefore are the ones that put out the call for papers, and then help organize the recview processof those papers and then the larger Editorial Committee (as for ordinary issues), makes requests for people to review the paper.
[10:45] MikeBennett: === Ontology Summit ===
[10:45] MikeBennett: Potential theme not yet officially being talked about
[10:47] MikeBennett: need to round up these conversation threads between OFV, SWAO,IAOA itself and EduCtee
[10:48] MikeBennett: Correction OFV was meant to be just OF I,e, Ontolog Forum
[10:48] MikeBennett: Whose move is it?
[10:49] MikeBennett: when is next Ontolog Forum Board of Trustees meeting? Chair gets to call it.
[10:52] MikeBennett: === Membershio, recruitment etc. ===
[10:52] MikeBennett: Are there things we can start doing now the infrastructure is sorted out
[10:53] MikeBennett: Easy stuff: post to the IAOA List periodically that the SWAO SIG is in existence and point to our web age, describemeeting cycles etc.
[10:55] MikeBennett: We are now in a position to send an email around to the IAOA Member list.
[10:55] MikeBennett: This would include activities we are working on now.
[10:55] MikeBennett: Also logistics (web, when we meet, how to join).
[10:56] MikeBennett: Activities to describe: education materials, advocacy for Ontology Summit theme, and special editing of Applied Ontology.
[10:56] MikeBennett: these 2 activities are now under way.
[10:57] MikeBennett: We can send something out periodically updating the IAOA membership about what we are doing.
[10:57] MikeBennett: Also we can target specific people and ask if they would like to participate.
[10:58] MikeBennett: For example folks who have spoken at previous Summits etc. - this is also why we wanted to relax the membership requirement so they don't need to be IAOA Members.
[10:59] MikeBennett: Also we wanty folks from other communities e.g. Linked Data to feel comfortatoble to join us.
[10:59] MikeBennett: We could send our to-be-produced introductory email to those lists as well.
[10:59] MikeBennett: So we need an introductory email to send out as well as emailing specific people.
[11:01] MikeBennett: Actions: Emails
[11:02] MikeBennett: 1. IAOA one - probably an update of the messages sent previous.
[11:02] MikeBennett: 2. Tailor that / adapt it to external communities.
[11:02] MikeBennett: Also propose some lits to send it to.
[11:03] MikeBennett: Action: MB draft a suitable email. Points too the website, mail list joining info, then point at some of our activities, the frame it that we invite particpation etc. etc.
[11:04] MikeBennett: LO can takeit and modify, post to external lists
[11:04] MikeBennett: All to consider specific individuals we would like to request to join.
[11:05] MikeBennett: We should exchange some names among ourselves via email before mailing them.
[11:06] MikeBennett: We can also invite people we know personally one on one, to join.
[11:06] MikeBennett: Next scheduled meeting is Oct 6
[11:07] MikeBennett: This does nto seemto clash with anything
[11:07] MikeBennett: We will fiollow up on the open actions etc. at that meeting.
[11:09] KenBaclawski: The Board of Trustees meeting pages are incomplete or inconsistent. These should be cleaned up because the pages are now being migrated from the old wiki to the new one.

Attendees: MikeBennett, MikeDean, KenBaclawski, LeoObrst. Regrets: AndreaWesterinen, NaicongLi

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