From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Tue Dec 13 03:49:10 2022 From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 03:49:10 +0100 Subject: [iaoa-education] Transcript of the IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.59 - Nov 22, 2022 Message-ID: Dear all, I'm sorry to just have noticed that no minutes of the last Education Committee meeting, n.59, held on Nov 22, have been distributed. Please find my notes of that meeting below. Note further that the our next meeting is scheduled (since then) for --> Tuesday, Dec 13, 2022 13:00 UTC [1] regional times: 08:00 EST / 14:00 CET / 15:00 SAST held virtually via Skype. Moreover, we hope to see many one day later for --> the 5th ESAO session [2] on Wednesday, Dec 14, 2022 15:00 UTC [3] regional times: 09:00 EST / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST held virtually via Zoom. Thanks, my apologies and best regards, Frank [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221213T1300&ah=1&am=00 [2] https://wiki.iaoa.org/index.php/Edu:ESAO#5th_ESAO_Webinar_on_Dec_14.2C_2022 [3] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221214T1500&ah=1&am=00 [15:02] FrankLoebe: . = IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.59 on Nov 22, 2022 = IAOA EduTC Meeting Tuesday, Nov 22, 2022 13:00 UTC regional times: 08:00 EST / 14:00 CET / 15:00 SAST [1] Skype: https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221122T1300&ah=1&am=30 [2] transcript of n.58, Sep 20, 2022 https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/2022-September/000400.html [3] ESAO organization document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0fvfy7JzmYHhfivE98OCYLIO8QTcs448xiH35gcxZg/ -- unedited session notes (FL) -- 1. copyright forms - [ ] FL: share the latest version of the form as a Google doc (and in shared folder) - FL: I've got further forms from other places, wanted to integrate those - [ ] FL: share all form material in a Google folder by Fri, Nov 25 - [ ] FL: info message to [iaoa-education] - [ ] 2. ESAO session - next session? -> Dec 13 16:00 CET - [ ] CT: ask Nathalie by Thu, Nov 24 & inform others - [ ] LV: ask Claudio - [ ] LG: ask Sebastian for the panel and talk to Patrick Koopmann wrt. a future 15-20 min presentation on a nearby topic of his choice - deadline: decide mid next week (or earlier) 3. ISAO - NG, GG, MG, OK, RH, LV, SB - < further reporting by FL > 4. next meeting -> Dec 13 14:00 CET From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Tue Dec 13 12:53:20 2022 From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:53:20 +0100 Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.60 - Tue, Dec 13, 2022: Announcement => in ca. 1h Message-ID: <99c21892-5475-90ed-ac0a-62ce0f059007@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Dear all, despite inacceptably short notice, which I do regret, today it's time for our next meeting. Please find the corresponding data and an agenda draft below, the latter being subject to your ideas for additions and changes. Looking forward to everyone who can join in ca. 1 hour already, my apologies, Frank = IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.60 on Dec 13, 2022 = IAOA EduTC Meeting Tuesday, Dec 13, 2022 13:00 UTC regional times: 08:00 EST / 14:00 CET / 15:00 SAST [1] Skype: https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221213T1300&ah=1&am=30 [2] transcript of n.59, Nov 22, 2022 https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/2022-December/000411.html [3] ESAO organization document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0fvfy7JzmYHhfivE98OCYLIO8QTcs448xiH35gcxZg/ == participants == expecting: FL Frank Loebe CT Cassia Trojahn LV Laure Vieu open: LG Lucia Gomez Alvarez SL Sandra Lovrencic RR Robert Rovetto regrets: < none > == agenda proposal == 1. ESAO series a. general remarks/views on series and our organization efforts b. scheduling next sessions 1: with Patrick Koopmann c. anything on tomorrow's session? 1: duration - 30 vs 60? 2: availabilities 2. Copyright agreement - state 3. ISAO 2023 - no news yet 4. any other business == pre-meeting material == Lucia's update by email on Patrick Koopmann's availability From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Tue Dec 13 18:42:14 2022 From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:42:14 +0100 Subject: [iaoa-education] Transcript of the IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.60 - Dec 13, 2022 Message-ID: <63d0aedb-8e25-3880-2380-4f24fa111e6e@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Dear all, please find below the chat transcript of the Education Committee meeting n.60, held earlier today. If anyone has any comments or change requests, please let me know. Our next meeting is scheduled for --> Tuesday, Jan 24, 2023 14:00 UTC [1] via Skype regional times: 09:00 EST / 15:00 CET / 16:00 SAST Looking forward to tomorrow's ESAO session [2,3], best regards Frank [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20230124T1400&ah=1&am=00 [2] https://wiki.iaoa.org/index.php/Edu:ESAO#5th_ESAO_Webinar_on_Dec_14.2C_2022 [3] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221214T1500&ah=1&am=00 -- unedited chat transcript -- [14:04] FrankLoebe: . = IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.60 on Dec 13, 2022 = IAOA EduTC Meeting Tuesday, Dec 13, 2022 13:00 UTC regional times: 08:00 EST / 14:00 CET / 15:00 SAST [1] Skype: https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20221213T1300&ah=1&am=30 [2] transcript of n.59, Nov 22, 2022 https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/2022-December/000411.html [3] ESAO organization document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0fvfy7JzmYHhfivE98OCYLIO8QTcs448xiH35gcxZg/ == participants == expecting: FL Frank Loebe CT Cassia Trojahn LV Laure Vieu open: LG Lucia Gomez Alvarez SL Sandra Lovrencic RR Robert Rovetto regrets: < none > == agenda proposal == 1. ESAO series a. general remarks/views on series and our organization efforts b. scheduling next sessions 1: with Patrick Koopmann c. anything on tomorrow's session? 1: duration - 30 vs 60? 2: availabilities 2. Copyright agreement - state 3. ISAO 2023 - no news yet 4. any other business == pre-meeting material == Lucia's update by email on Patrick Koopmann's availability [14:06] FrankLoebe: . == 1. ESAO series == [14:07] FrankLoebe: FL: will have a few comments, currently the situation is not satisfying CT: a longer-term schedule might help [14:07] FrankLoebe: CT: we'd need better management of distributing the announcements [14:10] FrankLoebe: FL: propose going for every 2-months in frequency [14:10] FrankLoebe: CT: +1 [14:13] FrankLoebe: LV: we may work more with delegation, not involving everyone in everything [14:13] FrankLoebe: LV: still having 2-3 working on matters, as this is helpful [14:29] FrankLoebe: < authorization document shared > [14:30] FrankLoebe: LV: also agree with longer-term strategy; note though that there seems to be a need at the side of the audience; even if session participation is low, it's still relevant [14:32] LaureVieu: sorry I had lost connection [14:35] FrankLoebe: < discussion on focus of content > [14:36] FrankLoebe: FL: current abstract seemed a bit like a mini-conference-talk abstract to me [14:36] FrankLoebe: CT: it's going to be an introductory talk [14:45] FrankLoebe: < discussion on topic options for/by Patrick Koopmann > [14:46] FrankLoebe: FL: (not for Patrick) we may benefit from session(s) on (i) what flavors of ontology engineering are there, (ii) what does 'ontology' mean in several circles [14:47] FrankLoebe: FL: (for Patrick) perhaps showing kinds of reasoning (from logic) and how this applies to (DL-)ontologies [14:47] FrankLoebe: LV: I'd aim at more basic material; once we reach current research, that might be too far already [14:48] FrankLoebe: LGA: he may explain abduction in an introductory manner (for ca. 10 min), plus a bit more on recent tools and use in ontology engineering [14:48] FrankLoebe: CT, LV, FL: +3 [14:52] FrankLoebe: regarding scheduling: FL: propose rather Feb than Jan CT: Feb 14 is better for me than Feb 21 (or 2 [14:52] FrankLoebe: FL: I'm fine with Feb 14 [14:53] LaureVieu: me too [14:55] FrankLoebe: [action] LGA: will ask Patrick for Feb 14 at 16:00 CET and will explain the topic as just discussed [14:57] FrankLoebe: LV: for alternative daates, it's better to stick to the sema day of the week; we may be more flexible wrt. the periods in between session [15:00] FrankLoebe: . == 1c. anything on tomorrow's session? == LV: what's the duration for tomorrow? [15:01] FrankLoebe: CT: ask for 15-25 min talk, then discussion [15:02] FrankLoebe: CT hosts, FL co-host [15:05] FrankLoebe: host is responsible for emergency interruptions (or hints on the time), if needed [15:07] FrankLoebe: organizers gather 10 minutes before the session starts [15:09] FrankLoebe: . == 2. Copyright agreement - state == FL: now shared; who/how to continue on that? [15:10] FrankLoebe: LV: suggest to dedicate the next EduTC meeting for finalizing that document [15:11] FrankLoebe: < on 1b: LGA: Patrick Koopmann accepted Feb 14 for his slot > [15:13] FrankLoebe: FL: Would we want a 2nd speaker for Feb 14? [15:13] FrankLoebe: FL: maybe on an overview of flavors of "what's ontology engineering?" [15:14] FrankLoebe: LV: Oscar Corcho? Maria Poveda-Villalon? [15:18] FrankLoebe: < discussion -> outcome: we may run a panel on that > [15:20] FrankLoebe: who (ca. 5): Oscar Corcho/Maria Poveda-Villalon, Patrick Koopmann, Giancarlo Guizzardi, Frank Loebe [15:25] FrankLoebe: + Maria Keet [15:26] FrankLoebe: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-RKAFVlIUcyWUVhZd-IEFJQI2-AqHLxfxeuWIIIaCs [15:26] FrankLoebe: ^ CT: I've setup a planning spreadsheet for ESAO 2023 [15:26] FrankLoebe: [action] FL: tidy up the ESAO Google doc [15:29] FrankLoebe: . == 3. ISAO 2023 - no news yet == [15:29] FrankLoebe: FL: nothing new, except for Oliver Kutz also accepting to join ISAO [15:31] FrankLoebe: LGA: related to FOIS, we'd seek students interested in setting up/layouting a poster for FOIS, could pay a 100 EUR voucher [15:32] FrankLoebe: FL: you may also consider asking at [iaoa-member] [15:33] FrankLoebe: [action] FL: ensure LGA gets list membership [15:38] FrankLoebe: next EduTC meeting: Tue, Jan 24, 15:00 [15:38] FrankLoebe: < session ends > [15:43] FrankLoebe: . == participants == present: LGA Lucia Gomez Alvarez FL Frank Loebe SL Sandra Lovrencic [later and chat only] CT Cassia Trojahn LV Laure Vieu < chat-transcipt ends >