[iaoa-education] Transcript of the IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.44 - Mar 03, 2021
Robert Rovetto
ontologos at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 3 22:47:36 CET 2021
All,
Apologies for absence. As some present know, I could not connect.
Can someone bring me up to speed via a skyp call? (Please contact me offlist, if so)
Re:short webinar series, I'm interested in contributing to or making a couple of topics. One is foundational ontology concepts.
Roberto
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 8:59:51 AM EST, Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
Dear all,
please find below the unedited chat transcript of the Education
Committee meeting n.44, held today.
If you have any comments or change requests, please let me know.
A follow-up meeting is planned for the week starting on Mar 22, 2021. A
Doodle poll for determining the exact time slot shall follow soon.
Best regards,
Frank
-- unedited chat transcript --
[10:56] FrankLoebe: .
= IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.44 on Mar 03, 2021 =
----------------> WELCOME (BACK) <----------------
--> Meeting n.44 Wed, Mar 03, 2021
05:00 EST / 10:00 UTC / 11:00 CET / 12:00 SAST [1]
Skype: https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY
Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ
[1]
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210303T1000&ah=1&am=30
selected based on [2]
[2] https://doodle.com/poll/mknafezeu6hvkzbp
== participants ==
expecting:
TH Torsten Hahmann [likely late]
LJ Ludger Jansen
MK Maria Keet
OK Oliver Kutz
FL Frank Loebe
SL Sandra Lovrencic
DP Daniele Porello
RR Robert Rovetto
ES Emilio Sanfilippo
CT Cassia Trojahn
LV Laure Vieu
regrets:
< none >
== agenda ==
0. adoption of agenda
1. webinar series on applied ontology
a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)
b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)
c. first program (what who when)
d. who handles the whole process
2. status and revival of the Education Committee
3. next meeting(s) and AOB
== pre-meeting material ==
== 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==
[1] initiating message
https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2021-February/000289.html
< excerpt from [1] >
[...] to invite you to contribute to develop a program of short webinars
(on-line video lectures) on fundamentals of Ontology and its Applications.
IAOA's main educational activity, the ISAO summer school, was cancelled
in 2020 with hopes to postpone it to September 2021. But pandemic
uncertainties are still high and since we deemed that a proper summer
school cannot be held on-line, ISAO 2021 is now cancelled. Of course,
ISAO summer schools shall resume when the situation will improve.
The idea then emerged in the IAOA EC to create a program of short
on-line lectures, possibly asking some of the lecturers who were on the
ISAO 2020 program to contribute, as well as extending to the wealth of
great lecturers present in our community. The webinar series could adopt
a regular frequency, and extend over the years, possibly becoming a main
instrument of the IAOA Education Technical Committee.
Educational activities certainly are in high demand from IAOA members.
The EduTC needs to be revived, and the webinar series project could be
the occasion to gather energies and make it active again.
</ excerpt >
[10:58] anonymous morphed into MariaKeet
[11:07] FrankLoebe: < session started at 11:05 CET >
[11:08] FrankLoebe: .
< FL gives brief introduction on the background of the meeting >
[agreement] agenda adopted
[11:08] FrankLoebe: .
== 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==
a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)
b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)
c. first program (what who when)
d. who handles the whole process
[11:09] FrankLoebe: .
< LV summarizing the background of the webinar series idea, cf.
pre-meeting material on item 1. >
[11:10] FrankLoebe: LV: we'd not simply convert the summer school format
into an online variant, but rather to consider a new online format
[11:11] FrankLoebe: LV: first ideas: short (ca. 20 min)
webinars/presentations; e.g.: what's a perdurant? what's a top-level
ontology? ... having many of those
[11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: who is this targeting? Anyone out there?
post-grads, PhDs?
[11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: this will affect topics
[11:13] FrankLoebe: LV: hasn't been fixed, but similar to the summer
schools seems plausible
[11:14] FrankLoebe: MK: I get emails from industry people asking for
explanations on my textbook
[11:16] FrankLoebe: FL: perhaps we don't have to fix this for all
webinars in the same way; could have some for postgrad level, some for
industry/business
[11:19] FrankLoebe: LV: generally, we plan to continue this/provide
webinars over years, not just replacing ISAO in 2021
[11:20] FrankLoebe: FL: yes, but we should also plan something concrete
for this year
[11:24] FrankLoebe: ES: I welcome the idea in general; on the format,
the question is what to do, e.g., several online-conferences have
expected that people looked at videos beforehand, then having live
discussion sessions
[11:30] FrankLoebe: CT: +1, have also seen that in conferences; although
live talks are also nice
[11:30] FrankLoebe: < discussion about format options, esp.
pre-recording vs. live session >
[11:31] FrankLoebe: options discussed: live-sessions; pre-recording +
later live session, possibly with panel-discussion
[11:31] anonymous1 morphed into LudgerJansen
[11:32] FrankLoebe: MK: there are also a number of videos out there,
from online classes held already
[11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: [...]
LJ: what's the aim? unrelated topics or do we have a focus topic?
[11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: would not want to be too constraining?
[11:35] FrankLoebe: LJ: the decision will influence our approach
[11:35] FrankLoebe: LV: one idea was to start with the intended
lecturers of ISAO 2020 (asking them)
[11:37] FrankLoebe: LV: those could give a set of small videos that are
related ... but that's just one idea
[11:39] FrankLoebe: MK: for the African Summer school we had an open
call for basic and advanced topics, creating a program from what we
received as talk suggestions
[11:40] FrankLoebe: FL: sounds like a good idea to me, having
self-motivated presenters; we could fill in gaps (in topic coverage) later
[11:40] MariaKeet: ^ (was this one: http://sigir.org/afirm2020/
[unrelated topics though])
[11:48] FrankLoebe: LV: perhaps we ask known presenters in a first round
(N.Guarino, A.Varzi, K.Fine, etc.), then continue with an open call
[11:50] FrankLoebe: < discussion on who to ask vs. open call; format and
possible durations >
[11:50] FrankLoebe: MK: I think we shouldn't have only presenters of one
group of age; want to demonstrate a lively & vibrant community
[11:51] FrankLoebe: LV: I agree, we should have a mixed approach
[11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: +1 for balance between the presenters
[11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: on duration: students drop out after 10-12 min,
even 20-25 is too long; 45 min is far too long
[11:52] FrankLoebe: MK: ^this is based on studies; more "action" on the
slides helps a bit (flying, moving things)
[11:55] FrankLoebe: < discussion about readiness of presenters to stick
to new, short formats >
[11:56] FrankLoebe: FL: approaches need not exclude each other, majority
could be shorts, plus some longer ones
[11:56] FrankLoebe: LJ: it's a challenge to re-format ways to explain
topics in bits of 10 min ... will be interesting to see what is produced
[11:57] MariaKeet1: I have to leave in a few minutes
[11:59] FrankLoebe: MK: I'd be interested in structuring and planning of
the series; giving input on how to restructure talks etc.
[12:03] FrankLoebe: LV: we should start asap, once the technical setup
is clarified
[12:04] FrankLoebe: MK: still need to clarify whether course-like or
rather self-standing video that can be cherry-picked
[12:05] FrankLoebe: LV: certainly self-standing is preferred
[12:06] FrankLoebe: FL, DP: +1
[12:09] MariaKeet1: I really have to go now, sorry. I'll see follow via
email?
[12:09] MariaKeet1: bye
[12:13] FrankLoebe: < general expressions of interest and occasional
contributions; no one in the meeting can take the full lead >
[12:22] FrankLoebe: < discussion on how to proceed >
[12:24] FrankLoebe: [agreement] next meeting TBD via Doodle in week of
Mar 22, with time slots that allow for American participation, too
[12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] establish a branch in IAOA's internal
wiki for joint work during the meetings
[12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] setup the Doodle for the next meeting
[12:26] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL
[12:27] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL+??] start a wikipage on first
candidate lectures with presenter, scope and target audience
[12:28] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] consider moving forward the
clarification of which technical basis to use
[12:28] FrankLoebe: < session ended a few minutes ago >
[12:31] FrankLoebe: .
== participants ==
present:
LJ Ludger Jansen
MK Maria Keet
FL Frank Loebe
DP Daniele Porello
ES Emilio Sanfilippo
CT Cassia Trojahn
LV Laure Vieu
< chat transcript ends >
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