From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de  Thu Oct  4 15:12:05 2018
From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:12:05 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times
 of IAOA EduTC
Message-ID: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>

Dear all,

during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default 
slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for 
wider participation.

   --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and participate.

       [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z

Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, for 
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.

As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed this 
week already, the October meeting shall be held during next week, 
ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please declare 
your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will be most 
helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum and express 
preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" (yellow).

An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any times 
that should work in general, but won't work next week, please record 
them in the Doodle poll as comments.

Thanks and best regards,
Frank

From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de  Mon Oct  8 03:49:39 2018
From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:49:39 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>

Dear Maria, Zena and all,

by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll [1] 
again - thanks to all participants so far!

The two most promising options are these slots:
(1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
(2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST

There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria during 
the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min of option 
(1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a 60-min-slot, 
starting at the later times of option (2)?


Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):

   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.

Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday, i.e., 
either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself that I'm 
already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the whole 
afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date, 
unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct 
09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I 
certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up on 
matters afterwards).

NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00 CEST/SAST 
can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter - just to 
mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.

Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
best regards,
Frank


[1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z


------ Original Message ------
From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting 
times of IAOA EduTC

> Dear all,
> 
> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default 
> slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for 
> wider participation.
> 
>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and participate.
> 
>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
> 
> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, for 
> Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
> 
> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed this 
> week already, the October meeting shall be held during next week, 
> ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please declare 
> your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will be most 
> helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum and express 
> preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" (yellow).
> 
> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any times 
> that should work in general, but won't work next week, please record 
> them in the Doodle poll as comments.
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> Frank



From mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za  Mon Oct  8 10:10:54 2018
From: mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za (Maria Keet)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:10:54 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <19f919c2-9cae-6b4a-adaf-24bbfb1af1a0@cs.uct.ac.za>

Dear All,

For the Wednesdays, I clicked that only because I anticipate your 
daylight saving time (which we don't have), and normally would have to 
leave by 17:15 SAST latest, so I agree the later option would be better.

Looking at the numbers, more people can make it for Wednesday than 
Tuesday, so I'd propose for either the 10th or 17th. In case it matters 
for deciding: there are currently ongoing items on the agenda, not 
urgent ones with deadlines:
- ISAO'18 report
- planning for the next ISAO 2020 in Bolzano: by when to finalise the PC 
chairs and General chair? Start looking already?
- wiki term list updates
- the new pub quiz questions

Regards,
Maria

On 08/10/2018 3:49, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear Maria, Zena and all,
>
> by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll 
> [1] again - thanks to all participants so far!
>
> The two most promising options are these slots:
> (1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
> (2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST
>
> There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria 
> during the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min 
> of option (1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a 
> 60-min-slot, starting at the later times of option (2)?
>
>
> Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):
>
>   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
>       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.
>
> Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday, 
> i.e., either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself 
> that I'm already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the 
> whole afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date, 
> unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct 
> 09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
> However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I 
> certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up 
> on matters afterwards).
>
> NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00 
> CEST/SAST can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter - 
> just to mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.
>
> Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
> best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
> Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
> To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
> Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting 
> times of IAOA EduTC
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default 
>> slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for 
>> wider participation.
>>
>>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and participate.
>>
>>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>
>> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, 
>> for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
>> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
>> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>>
>> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed 
>> this week already, the October meeting shall be held during next 
>> week, ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please 
>> declare your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will 
>> be most helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum 
>> and express preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" 
>> (yellow).
>>
>> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any 
>> times that should work in general, but won't work next week, please 
>> record them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>>
>> Thanks and best regards,
>> Frank
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> Msg Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/
> List Info: https://listserv.ovgu.de/mailman/listinfo/iaoa-education/
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From jbermejo at etsii.upm.es  Mon Oct  8 19:09:32 2018
From: jbermejo at etsii.upm.es (jbermejo)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:09:32 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <d5b162165403b4b0916d5b9f4566c94c@etsii.upm.es>

On 2018-10-08 03:49, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear Maria, Zena and all,
> 
> by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll
> [1] again - thanks to all participants so far!
> 
> The two most promising options are these slots:
> (1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
> (2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST
> 
> There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria
> during the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min
> of option (1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a
> 60-min-slot, starting at the later times of option (2)?
> 
> 
> Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):
> 
>   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
>       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.
> 
> Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday,
> i.e., either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself
> that I'm already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the
> whole afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date,
> unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct
> 09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
> However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I
> certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up
> on matters afterwards).
> 
> NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00
> CEST/SAST can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter -
> just to mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
> best regards,
> Frank
> 
> 
> [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
> 
Hello,

I adjust to whatever most could make it. I am available, so far, both on 
the 10th or the 17th.

Julita

> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
> Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
> To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
> Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting
> times of IAOA EduTC
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default 
>> slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for 
>> wider participation.
>> 
>>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and 
>> participate.
>> 
>>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>> 
>> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, 
>> for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
>> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
>> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>> 
>> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed 
>> this week already, the October meeting shall be held during next week, 
>> ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please declare 
>> your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will be most 
>> helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum and 
>> express preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" (yellow).
>> 
>> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any times 
>> that should work in general, but won't work next week, please record 
>> them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards,
>> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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From sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr  Tue Oct  9 02:51:20 2018
From: sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr (=?UTF-8?B?U2FuZHJhIExvdnJlbsSNacSH?=)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:51:20 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <d5b162165403b4b0916d5b9f4566c94c@etsii.upm.es>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <d5b162165403b4b0916d5b9f4566c94c@etsii.upm.es>
Message-ID: <1b4cff9b-e797-b35c-397e-adb0edb26a1f@foi.hr>

Dear all,

both Wednesdays are ok for me.

Regards,

Sandra

FOI signature
**
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Faculty of organization and informatics <http://www.foi.hr>*Assoc. Prof. 
Sandra Lovrenčić, Ph.D.*
*University of Zagreb, Faculty of organization and informatics
*Pavlinska 2, HR-42000 Varaždin, Croatia
tel: +385 42 390 851; fax: +385 42 213 413; mob: +385 98 243 341
e-mail: sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr <mailto:sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr>
http://www.foi.unizg.hr/eng/staff/sandra.lovrencic

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On 8.10.2018. 19:09, jbermejo wrote:
> On 2018-10-08 03:49, Frank Loebe wrote:
>> Dear Maria, Zena and all,
>>
>> by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll
>> [1] again - thanks to all participants so far!
>>
>> The two most promising options are these slots:
>> (1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
>> (2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST
>>
>> There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria
>> during the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min
>> of option (1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a
>> 60-min-slot, starting at the later times of option (2)?
>>
>>
>> Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):
>>
>>   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
>>       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.
>>
>> Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday,
>> i.e., either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself
>> that I'm already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the
>> whole afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date,
>> unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct
>> 09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
>> However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I
>> certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up
>> on matters afterwards).
>>
>> NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00
>> CEST/SAST can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter -
>> just to mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
>> best regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>
> Hello,
>
> I adjust to whatever most could make it. I am available, so far, both 
> on the 10th or the 17th.
>
> Julita
>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
>> Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
>> To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
>> Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting
>> times of IAOA EduTC
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new 
>>> default slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to 
>>> allow for wider participation.
>>>
>>>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and 
>>> participate.
>>>
>>>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>>
>>> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, 
>>> for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
>>> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
>>> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>>>
>>> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed 
>>> this week already, the October meeting shall be held during next 
>>> week, ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please 
>>> declare your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will 
>>> be most helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum 
>>> and express preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" 
>>> (yellow).
>>>
>>> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any 
>>> times that should work in general, but won't work next week, please 
>>> record them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> To Post:      mailto:iaoa-education at ovgu.de
>> Msg Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/
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>> IAOA website: http://iaoa.org
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr  Tue Oct  9 11:21:01 2018
From: sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr (=?UTF-8?B?U2FuZHJhIExvdnJlbsSNacSH?=)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:21:01 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <1b4cff9b-e797-b35c-397e-adb0edb26a1f@foi.hr>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <d5b162165403b4b0916d5b9f4566c94c@etsii.upm.es>
 <1b4cff9b-e797-b35c-397e-adb0edb26a1f@foi.hr>
Message-ID: <3ecfeb99-8844-5fb6-9ced-1fff88971691@foi.hr>

Dear all,

I apologize, but I just found out that I have parents meeting at my 
son's school on Wednesday 17th at 17:00 CEST, so I am available at that 
date until 16:30.

Regards,

Sandra

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**
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Faculty of organization and informatics <http://www.foi.hr>*Assoc. Prof. 
Sandra Lovrenčić, Ph.D.*
*University of Zagreb, Faculty of organization and informatics
*Pavlinska 2, HR-42000 Varaždin, Croatia
tel: +385 42 390 851; fax: +385 42 213 413; mob: +385 98 243 341
e-mail: sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr <mailto:sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr>
http://www.foi.unizg.hr/eng/staff/sandra.lovrencic

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On 9.10.2018. 2:51, Sandra Lovrenčić wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> both Wednesdays are ok for me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sandra
>
> FOI signature
> **
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Faculty of organization and informatics <http://www.foi.hr>*Assoc. 
> Prof. Sandra Lovrenčić, Ph.D.*
> *University of Zagreb, Faculty of organization and informatics
> *Pavlinska 2, HR-42000 Varaždin, Croatia
> tel: +385 42 390 851; fax: +385 42 213 413; mob: +385 98 243 341
> e-mail: sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr <mailto:sandra.lovrencic at foi.hr>
> http://www.foi.unizg.hr/eng/staff/sandra.lovrencic
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On 8.10.2018. 19:09, jbermejo wrote:
>> On 2018-10-08 03:49, Frank Loebe wrote:
>>> Dear Maria, Zena and all,
>>>
>>> by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll
>>> [1] again - thanks to all participants so far!
>>>
>>> The two most promising options are these slots:
>>> (1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
>>> (2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST
>>>
>>> There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria
>>> during the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min
>>> of option (1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a
>>> 60-min-slot, starting at the later times of option (2)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):
>>>
>>>   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
>>>       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.
>>>
>>> Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday,
>>> i.e., either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself
>>> that I'm already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the
>>> whole afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date,
>>> unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct
>>> 09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
>>> However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I
>>> certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up
>>> on matters afterwards).
>>>
>>> NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00
>>> CEST/SAST can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter -
>>> just to mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
>>> best regards,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I adjust to whatever most could make it. I am available, so far, both 
>> on the 10th or the 17th.
>>
>> Julita
>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
>>> Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
>>> To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
>>> Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting
>>> times of IAOA EduTC
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new 
>>>> default slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to 
>>>> allow for wider participation.
>>>>
>>>>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and 
>>>> participate.
>>>>
>>>>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>>>
>>>> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the 
>>>> month, for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded 
>>>> Monday completely, because all those time slots investigated so far 
>>>> overlap with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>>>>
>>>> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed 
>>>> this week already, the October meeting shall be held during next 
>>>> week, ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, 
>>>> please declare your availability for the default case. In doing so, 
>>>> it will be most helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to 
>>>> a minimum and express preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if 
>>>> necessary" (yellow).
>>>>
>>>> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any 
>>>> times that should work in general, but won't work next week, please 
>>>> record them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de  Tue Oct  9 12:18:33 2018
From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:18:33 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] Proposal of Wed,
 Oct 17 for meeting n.32 == RE(2): default meeting time and next
 meeting
In-Reply-To: <19f919c2-9cae-6b4a-adaf-24bbfb1af1a0@cs.uct.ac.za>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <19f919c2-9cae-6b4a-adaf-24bbfb1af1a0@cs.uct.ac.za>
Message-ID: <44246b97-9996-dc0e-5bec-11847c2f8cb4@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>

Dear all,

thanks for all feedback so far.


 > [MK]
 > Looking at the numbers, more people can make it for Wednesday than
 > Tuesday, so I'd propose for either the 10th or 17th.

I think let's try Wednesdays, too.


 > [MK]
 > In case it matters for deciding: there are currently ongoing items on
 > the agenda, not urgent ones with deadlines:
 > - ISAO'18 report
 > - planning for the next ISAO 2020 in Bolzano: by when to finalise the
 >   PC chairs and General chair? Start looking already?
 > - wiki term list updates
 > - the new pub quiz questions

Thanks, Maria. Looking at this agenda, I agree that there is no 
particular urgency. (I'll try to conserve my ISAO'18 thoughts beforehand.)
Therefore
+ given that time proceeds quickly,
+ admittedly, given my own desire to actually participate rather than
   not,
+ hoping that Sandra won't mind too much to select her constrained
   option,
+ seeing a bit more time to prepare for the item "term list updates",

   --> I'd like to propose that we meet next on Wed, Oct 17, 2018
       at 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST.

That said, if anyone has objections to that and prefers Oct 10, I'm 
still fine if you go ahead and meet tomorrow (then I cannot join). If no 
meeting occurs tomorrow, I suggest to consider the proposal of Oct 17 as 
agreed, if there is no explicit confirmation nor rejection.

Thanks and best regards
Frank


------ Original Message ------
From:    Maria Keet <mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za>
Sent:    2018.10.08 10:10 +0200
To:      iaoa-education <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == 
RE: Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC

> Dear All,
> 
> For the Wednesdays, I clicked that only because I anticipate your 
> daylight saving time (which we don't have), and normally would have to 
> leave by 17:15 SAST latest, so I agree the later option would be better.
> 
> Looking at the numbers, more people can make it for Wednesday than 
> Tuesday, so I'd propose for either the 10th or 17th. In case it matters 
> for deciding: there are currently ongoing items on the agenda, not 
> urgent ones with deadlines:
> - ISAO'18 report
> - planning for the next ISAO 2020 in Bolzano: by when to finalise the PC 
> chairs and General chair? Start looking already?
> - wiki term list updates
> - the new pub quiz questions
> 
> Regards,
> Maria
> 
> On 08/10/2018 3:49, Frank Loebe wrote:
>> Dear Maria, Zena and all,
>>
>> by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll 
>> [1] again - thanks to all participants so far!
>>
>> The two most promising options are these slots:
>> (1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
>> (2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST
>>
>> There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria 
>> during the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min 
>> of option (1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a 
>> 60-min-slot, starting at the later times of option (2)?
>>
>>
>> Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):
>>
>>   --> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
>>       or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.
>>
>> Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday, 
>> i.e., either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself 
>> that I'm already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the 
>> whole afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date, 
>> unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct 
>> 09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
>> However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I 
>> certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up 
>> on matters afterwards).
>>
>> NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00 
>> CEST/SAST can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter - 
>> just to mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
>> best regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From:    Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
>> Sent:    2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
>> To:      IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de>
>> Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting 
>> times of IAOA EduTC
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default 
>>> slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for 
>>> wider participation.
>>>
>>>    --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and participate.
>>>
>>>        [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z
>>>
>>> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, 
>>> for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday 
>>> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap 
>>> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>>>
>>> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed 
>>> this week already, the October meeting shall be held during next 
>>> week, ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please 
>>> declare your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will 
>>> be most helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum 
>>> and express preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" 
>>> (yellow).
>>>
>>> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any 
>>> times that should work in general, but won't work next week, please 
>>> record them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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From Z.Wood at greenwich.ac.uk  Tue Oct  9 16:18:48 2018
From: Z.Wood at greenwich.ac.uk (Zena Wood)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:18:48 +0000
Subject: [iaoa-education] default meeting time and next meeting == RE:
 Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting times of IAOA EduTC
In-Reply-To: <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <3a59eed1-7630-7a15-ed87-5f3bb381ce6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
 <432459a1-6e0f-3980-39a7-bd73c4028d6f@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <F12E1AFF-922F-4A90-BBDC-C3647C65ED21@greenwich.ac.uk>

Hi,

I would prefer Oct 17th if possible due to a last minute meeting scheduled for tomorrow.

Best,

Zena

On 7 Oct 2018, at 20:49, Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de<mailto:frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>> wrote:

Dear Maria, Zena and all,

by now it is somewhat instructive to have a look at the Doodle poll [1]
again - thanks to all participants so far!

The two most promising options are these slots:
(1) Wednesdays, 09:30 EDT / 14:30 BST / 15:30 CEST/SAST
(2) Wednesdays, 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST/SAST

There is the issue that with a 90-min-slot we'd miss either Maria during
the last 30 min of option (2) or Todd during the first 30 min of option
(1). Might it thus be worth to consider planning for just a 60-min-slot,
starting at the later times of option (2)?


Regarding our next meeting (and my own constraints):

--> We should decide whether to meet in the week starting on Oct 08
or in the week starting on Oct 15, for an October meeting.

Assuming we'd try one of the two time slots above on a Wednesday, i.e.,
either Wed, Oct 10, or Wed, Oct 17, I need to say for myself that I'm
already blocked on this particular Wed, Oct 10, during the whole
afternoon (CEST/SAST), and thus cannot participate on that date,
unfortunately. (But further, meanwhile I could not even offer Tue, Oct
09, nor Fri, Oct 12, either.) Wed, Oct 17, would still work for me.
However, if Maria, Zena and most of us can join on Wed, Oct 10, I
certainly do not wish to stand in the way (and would try to catch up on
matters afterwards).

NB: Any decision before Mon, Oct 08, 06:00 EDT/11:00 BST/12:00 CEST/SAST
can still make it into this month's IAOA event newsletter - just to
mention, though it's a little tight, admittedly.

Thanks in advance for any views and comments,
best regards,
Frank


[1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z<https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z>


------ Original Message ------
From: Frank Loebe <frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de<mailto:frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>>
Sent: 2018.10.04 15:12 +0200
To: IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education at ovgu.de<mailto:iaoa-education at ovgu.de>>
Subject: [iaoa-education] Doodle poll for new default/regular meeting
times of IAOA EduTC

> Dear all,
>
> during the last meeting we intended to try to determine a new default
> slot for meetings of the IAOA Education Committee, a.o. to allow for
> wider participation.
>
>   --> Please find at [1] a corresponding Doodle poll - and participate.
>
>       [1] https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z<https://doodle.com/poll/bp9fyifc4rxkgw9z>
>
> Your answer should apply to a prototypical 1st weekday of the month, for
> Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. I have excluded Monday
> completely, because all those time slots investigated so far overlap
> with the bi-weekly Executive Council meetings on Mondays.
>
> As the current default time of 1st Tuesday of the month has passed this
> week already, the October meeting shall be held during next week,
> ideally at the newly determined time slot. But for now, please declare
> your availability for the default case. In doing so, it will be most
> helpful if you keep strict unavailability (red) to a minimum and express
> preferences by "Yes" (green) vs. "Yes, if necessary" (yellow).
>
> An announcement for next week shall follow soon. If you have any times
> that should work in general, but won't work next week, please record
> them in the Doodle poll as comments.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> Frank



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