From rrovetto at buffalo.edu  Mon Mar  5 01:12:32 2018
From: rrovetto at buffalo.edu (rrovetto at buffalo.edu)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:12:32 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] FW: IAOA Wiki - Education Committee Member
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Following Juilita's question, likewise for myself.
May I also ask if I should add my details to the Edu Comm. page?
E.g. on page... http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.
TCEduMatters
(My original membership request email was on 7/20/2017 to Dr.Keet, then
replied on the 26th)

Very respectfully,
Robert Rovetto
--


*Seeking opportunities (studentship or employment)Selected Affiliations
(unfunded/volunteer):*NASA Datanauts
<https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
<https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
Research Affiliate <http://www.coder.umd.edu/node/287>, Center for Orbital
Debris Education & Research <http://www.coder.umd.edu/research-affiliates>
Webmaster of Journal of Search and Rescue <http://journalofsar.com/>

*Project* *(seeking opportunities/funding for)*:
Orbital Space Domain Ontology and Taxonomy Project
<http://purl.org/space-ontology>

*Publications*:
Google Scholar
<https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=jTkGEiMAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra>, ORCID
Profile <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3835-7817>, ResearcherID
<http://www.researcherid.com/rid/G-6156-2017>
Ask to connect on LinkedIn and ResearchGate
<https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Rovetto>
Academia.edu Profile <https://umd.academia.edu/ontologist>, DBLP Comp Sci
<http://dblp2.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/r/Rovetto:Robert_J=>, Philpapers
<http://philpapers.org/profile/46387>

*Emails*:
rrovetto at terpalum.umd.edu
(Preferred email. Forwards to... ontologos at yahoo.com)
robert.rovetto at mycampus.apus.edu
rrovetto[at]buffalo[dot]edu (Alumnus email)


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On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:55 AM, jbermejo <jbermejo at etsii.upm.es> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks Amanda. I know how to do it myself, but I do not know to what
> extend I am allowed to do it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-09-05 20:47, Hicks,Amanda wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am forwarding you this request for the person who is managing the wiki
>> now.
>>
>> Best,
>> Amanda
>>
>> On 9/5/17, 12:59 PM, "iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de on behalf of
>> jbermejo" <iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de on behalf of
>> jbermejo at etsii.upm.es> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Amanda,
>>
>>     I have been following the IAOA Education Committee activities as a
>>     member. I have not always been able to participate, due to some
>>     lecturing schedule conflicts with the meeting time. However, I expect
>> to
>>     participate actively this year as I do not have lectures. Would it be
>>     possible to be added to wiki with my personal details:
>>
>>     Dr. Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>>     Autonomous Systems Laboratory (ASLab)
>>     Universidad Polit?cnica de Madrid
>>     Spain
>>
>>     My webpage link is: http://tierra.aslab.upm.es/~jbermejo/Home.html
>>
>>     I would really appreciate it.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>>
>>     On 2015-10-07 18:50, Hicks,Amanda wrote:
>>     > Dear Education Committee Members,
>>     >
>>     > We would like to add you to our list of committee members on the
>> IAOA
>>     > Education Wiki.
>>     >
>>     > If you would like to add your own information, please follow the
>> link
>>     > below, click 'edit' and add your information.  You will need the
>>     > following password: UniversityAvenue!8
>>     > http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TCEduMatters
>>     >
>>     > If you would like me to add your information, I would be happy to.
>>     > Please send me your Name, Institutional affiliation as you would
>> like
>>     > it to appear on the website, and country.  Also, if you would like
>> me
>>     > to add a link to a personal website or email address, let me know.
>>     >
>>     > We are looking forward to expanding the conten
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=e+are+looking+forward+to+expanding+the+conten&entry=gmail&source=g>t
>> on the wiki.  If you
>>     > have ideas for new wiki content let us know.
>>     >
>>     > Best,
>>     > Amanda Hicks
>>     >
>>     > Amanda Hicks, PhD
>>     > Assistant Professor, Health Outcomes & Policy
>>     > College of Medicine
>>     >
>>     > University of Florida
>>     >
>>     > CTRB 3226
>>     > PO Box 100219
>>     > 2004 Mowry Road
>>     > Gainesville, FL  32610
>>     > p: (352) 294-5932 [1]
>>     > f: (352) 273-8703 [2]
>>     > aehicks at ufl.edu
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Links:
>>     > ------
>>     > [1] tel:%28352%29%20294-4197
>>     > [2] tel:%28352%29%20273-8703
>>     >
>>     > ____________________________________________________________
>> _________
>>     > Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/iaoa-education/
>>     > Committee File-share:
>>     > http://iaoa.cim3.net/file/work/Committee/Education/
>>     > Committee Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bi
>> n/wiki.pl?IaoaEducation
>>     > Activities Blog: http://iaoa-activities.blogspot.com/ ...(coming!)
>>     > To join: please email committee chair or to: info @ iaoa.org
>>     > IAOA website: http://iaoa.org
>>
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From rrovetto at buffalo.edu  Mon Mar  5 01:25:54 2018
From: rrovetto at buffalo.edu (rrovetto at buffalo.edu)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:25:54 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Wiki update
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All,

I have numerous books in pdf form, and can probably get most if not all
those on the wiki's book page
Would it be helpful to provide you with them or set up a google drive or
dropbox with them?

Regarding the wiki content, here are a couple of suggestions:
a) Make the books page as readable as possible so viewers can easily
read/find titles.
Toward that I suggest (i) changing the reference format so that titles come
first; and (ii) make titles bold or italicized where there is no active
link to the text.
b) Consider making a spreadsheet or MS Access file of all the books, and
posting it on the wiki for viewers to download. when more books are added
to said file, a new file can be uploaded with appropriate version labeling.
There should be some way to link a database of such content to the site so
that changes in the latter will refresh the book page accordingly. It would
also be appropriate for the term list (database rows for terms, columns for
definitions and other details. Add a term --> the term page should then
refresh to include that term.)
e.g., https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-aj-dynamic/
But might be more that can be done with the wiki.
c) I don't remember if i asked some time ago: but what about a more
aesthetic web design. As it is now it looks like a site from the first days
of the internet. Word Press has free site templates.
These are just suggestions. Do with them as you wish.



Very respectfully,
Robert Rovetto
--


*Seeking opportunities (studentship or employment)Selected Affiliations
(unfunded/volunteer):*NASA Datanauts
<https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
<https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
Research Affiliate <http://www.coder.umd.edu/node/287>, Center for Orbital
Debris Education & Research <http://www.coder.umd.edu/research-affiliates>
Webmaster of Journal of Search and Rescue <http://journalofsar.com/>

*Project* *(seeking opportunities/funding for)*:
Orbital Space Domain Ontology and Taxonomy Project
<http://purl.org/space-ontology>

*Publications*:
Google Scholar
<https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=jTkGEiMAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra>, ORCID
Profile <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3835-7817>, ResearcherID
<http://www.researcherid.com/rid/G-6156-2017>
Ask to connect on LinkedIn and ResearchGate
<https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Rovetto>
Academia.edu Profile <https://umd.academia.edu/ontologist>, DBLP Comp Sci
<http://dblp2.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/r/Rovetto:Robert_J=>, Philpapers
<http://philpapers.org/profile/46387>

*Emails*:
rrovetto at terpalum.umd.edu
(Preferred email. Forwards to... ontologos at yahoo.com)
robert.rovetto at mycampus.apus.edu
rrovetto[at]buffalo[dot]edu (Alumnus email)


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On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:53 AM, jbermejo <jbermejo at etsii.upm.es> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I have tried to update the wiki with some books I have been reading and
> using in the last few years related to ontologies. However, I had a few
> issues:
>
> - books categories:  E.g. The book on Ontologies for Software Engineering
> and Software TEchnology appears under Handbook, when it is an Ontology and
> Some Subject Domain (software in this case) for me.
>
> - books orgarnisation within a category: I could not find a logical
> organisation, neither by publishing data or by autor last name. Is there
> being used?
>
> Regards,
>
> Julita Bermejo-ALonso
>
>
> On 2018-02-20 16:31, Zena Wood wrote:
>
>> Dear Education Committee members,
>>
>> I would like to update the Education wiki with regards to ontology
>> courses that are being taught and relevant educational material that
>> is being used.
>>
>> The current list of courses on the wiki can be found at:
>> http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.CoursesAroundTheWorld
>>
>> The current list of educational material on the wiki can be found at:
>> http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.EducationalMaterial
>>
>> If you have started a new course or are using material that is not
>> currently listed on the wiki, that you feel others may find useful,
>> please could you send the details to this mailing list and I will
>> update the relevant wiki pages.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Zena
>> University of Greenwich, a charity and company limited by guarantee,
>> registered in England (reg. no. 986729). Registered office: Old Royal
>> Naval College, Park Row, Greenwich, London SE10 9LS.
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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From rrovetto at buffalo.edu  Mon Mar  5 01:46:17 2018
From: rrovetto at buffalo.edu (rrovetto at buffalo.edu)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:46:17 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Wiki update
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...also, the About page (http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=Main.About)
mentions
1) completing 3 projects "over the next two years"
Have those two years past (2015-2017)?

2) an Ontology textbook.
What is the status of the textbook?
I would consider it a top priority to have IAOA publish a neutral and
comprehensive ontology text that incorporates various methodologies,
approaches, and input from various ontology professionals across sectors
(industry, academia, etc.) and subject-matter disciplines.

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From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de  Mon Mar  5 21:23:17 2018
From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 21:23:17 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
Message-ID: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>

Dear all,

my apologies for the extremely short notice, but in the last meeting we 
decided to keep the next Education Committee meeting on its regular 
schedule, i.e., as follows:

    --> Meeting n.27             Tue, Mar 06, 2018 [1]
        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST

    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180306

Unfortunately, the last meeting minutes have not yet been circulated, 
but I plan to do so a bit later. If you cannot make it to the meeting 
tomorrow, I'd be grateful if you could let us know. Again, I'm very 
sorry for the short notice.

Please find a preliminary agenda proposal below and suggest further 
items that you would like to discuss or let me know if certain items 
cannot be dealt with yet. I can only send pre-meeting material later, if 
at all, I'm sorry.

Best regards,
Frank


[1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180306T15


= 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =

== participants ==

expecting:
   JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
   MK  Maria Keet
   FL  Frank Loebe
   SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
   TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
   AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
   ZW  Zena Wood

regrets:
   < none >

== agenda ==

    0. adoption of agenda

  ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
       a. 1st call for participation?
       b. website - officially online?
       c. pub quiz desired?
       d. other

    2. EduTC planning for 2018
       a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
       b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]

    3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
       a. requirements                                [MK]
       b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]

    4. wiki maintenance
       a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
       b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
       c. other updates?

  ? 5. pub quizzes
       a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
       b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]

    6. AOB

    7. next meeting(s)


== next meetings ==

first Tuesdays each month
10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield

* Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
* May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?

From mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za  Tue Mar  6 07:50:57 2018
From: mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za (Maria Keet)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:50:57 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] FW: IAOA Wiki - Education Committee Member
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Hi Robert,

Sure, go ahead.

Regards,
Maria

On 05/03/2018 2:12, rrovetto at buffalo.edu wrote:
> Following Juilita's question, likewise for myself.
> May I also ask if I should add my details to the Edu Comm. page?
> E.g. on page... 
> http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TCEduMatters 
> <http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TCEduMatters>
> (My original membership request email was on 7/20/2017 to Dr.Keet, 
> then replied on the 26th)
>
> Very respectfully,
> Robert Rovetto
> --
> /Seeking opportunities (studentship or employment)
> Selected Affiliations (unfunded/volunteer):
> /NASA Datanauts 
> <https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
> <https://open.nasa.gov/blog/welcome-datanauts-2017-spring-class/>
> Research Affiliate <http://www.coder.umd.edu/node/287>, Center for 
> Orbital Debris Education & Research 
> <http://www.coder.umd.edu/research-affiliates>
> Webmaster of Journal of Search and Rescue <http://journalofsar.com/>
>
> /Project//(seeking opportunities/funding for)/:
> Orbital Space Domain Ontology and Taxonomy Project 
> <http://purl.org/space-ontology>
>
> /Publications/:
> Google Scholar 
> <https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=jTkGEiMAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra>, 
> ORCID Profile <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3835-7817>, ResearcherID 
> <http://www.researcherid.com/rid/G-6156-2017>
> Ask to connect on LinkedIn and ResearchGate 
> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Rovetto>
> Academia.edu Profile <https://umd.academia.edu/ontologist>, DBLP Comp 
> Sci <http://dblp2.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/r/Rovetto:Robert_J=>, 
> Philpapers <http://philpapers.org/profile/46387>
>
>
> /Emails/:
> rrovetto at terpalum.umd.edu <mailto:rrovetto at terpalum.umd.edu>
> (Preferred email. Forwards to... ontologos at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:ontologos at yahoo.com>)
> robert.rovetto at mycampus.apus.edu <mailto:robert.rovetto at mycampus.apus.edu>
> rrovetto[at]buffalo[dot]edu (Alumnus email)
>
>
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> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:55 AM, jbermejo <jbermejo at etsii.upm.es 
> <mailto:jbermejo at etsii.upm.es>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     Thanks Amanda. I know how to do it myself, but I do not know to
>     what extend I am allowed to do it.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>
>
>
>
>     On 2017-09-05 20:47, Hicks,Amanda wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         I am forwarding you this request for the person who is
>         managing the wiki now.
>
>         Best,
>         Amanda
>
>         On 9/5/17, 12:59 PM, "iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de
>         <mailto:iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de> on behalf of
>         jbermejo" <iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de
>         <mailto:iaoa-education-bounces at ovgu.de> on behalf of
>         jbermejo at etsii.upm.es <mailto:jbermejo at etsii.upm.es>> wrote:
>
>             Dear Amanda,
>
>             I have been following the IAOA Education Committee
>         activities as a
>             member. I have not always been able to participate, due to
>         some
>             lecturing schedule conflicts with the meeting time.
>         However, I expect to
>             participate actively this year as I do not have lectures.
>         Would it be
>             possible to be added to wiki with my personal details:
>
>             Dr. Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>             Autonomous Systems Laboratory (ASLab)
>             Universidad Polit?cnica de Madrid
>             Spain
>
>             My webpage link is:
>         http://tierra.aslab.upm.es/~jbermejo/Home.html
>         <http://tierra.aslab.upm.es/%7Ejbermejo/Home.html>
>
>             I would really appreciate it.
>
>             Regards,
>
>             Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>
>             On 2015-10-07 18:50, Hicks,Amanda wrote:
>             > Dear Education Committee Members,
>             >
>             > We would like to add you to our list of committee
>         members on the IAOA
>             > Education Wiki.
>             >
>             > If you would like to add your own information, please
>         follow the link
>             > below, click 'edit' and add your information.  You will
>         need the
>             > following password: UniversityAvenue!8
>             >
>         http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TCEduMatters
>         <http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TCEduMatters>
>             >
>             > If you would like me to add your information, I would be
>         happy to.
>             > Please send me your Name, Institutional affiliation as
>         you would like
>             > it to appear on the website, and country. Also, if you
>         would like me
>             > to add a link to a personal website or email address,
>         let me know.
>             >
>             > We are looking forward to expanding the conten
>         <https://maps.google.com/?q=e+are+looking+forward+to+expanding+the+conten&entry=gmail&source=g>t
>         on the wiki.  If you
>             > have ideas for new wiki content let us know.
>             >
>             > Best,
>             > Amanda Hicks
>             >
>             > Amanda Hicks, PhD
>             > Assistant Professor, Health Outcomes & Policy
>             > College of Medicine
>             >
>             > University of Florida
>             >
>             > CTRB 3226
>             > PO Box 100219
>             > 2004 Mowry Road
>             > Gainesville, FL  32610
>             > p: (352) 294-5932 [1]
>             > f: (352) 273-8703 [2]
>             > aehicks at ufl.edu <mailto:aehicks at ufl.edu>
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Links:
>             > ------
>             > [1] tel:%28352%29%20294-4197
>             > [2] tel:%28352%29%20273-8703
>             >
>             >
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From jbermejo at etsii.upm.es  Tue Mar  6 07:38:57 2018
From: jbermejo at etsii.upm.es (jbermejo)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 07:38:57 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <edd5b4c3412848002e9c594d11cd294b@etsii.upm.es>

Hello Frank,

I will try my best to attend, although from a mobile as I am travelling. 
Let?s see if I can make it.

Regards,

Julita

On 2018-03-05 21:23, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> my apologies for the extremely short notice, but in the last meeting
> we decided to keep the next Education Committee meeting on its regular
> schedule, i.e., as follows:
> 
>    --> Meeting n.27             Tue, Mar 06, 2018 [1]
>        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST
> 
>    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
>    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180306
> 
> Unfortunately, the last meeting minutes have not yet been circulated,
> but I plan to do so a bit later. If you cannot make it to the meeting
> tomorrow, I'd be grateful if you could let us know. Again, I'm very
> sorry for the short notice.
> 
> Please find a preliminary agenda proposal below and suggest further
> items that you would like to discuss or let me know if certain items
> cannot be dealt with yet. I can only send pre-meeting material later,
> if at all, I'm sorry.
> 
> Best regards,
> Frank
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180306T15
> 
> 
> = 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =
> 
> == participants ==
> 
> expecting:
>   JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>   MK  Maria Keet
>   FL  Frank Loebe
>   SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
>   TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
>   AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
>   ZW  Zena Wood
> 
> regrets:
>   < none >
> 
> == agenda ==
> 
>    0. adoption of agenda
> 
>  ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
>       a. 1st call for participation?
>       b. website - officially online?
>       c. pub quiz desired?
>       d. other
> 
>    2. EduTC planning for 2018
>       a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
>       b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]
> 
>    3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
>       a. requirements                                [MK]
>       b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]
> 
>    4. wiki maintenance
>       a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
>       b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
>       c. other updates?
> 
>  ? 5. pub quizzes
>       a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
>       b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]
> 
>    6. AOB
> 
>    7. next meeting(s)
> 
> 
> == next meetings ==
> 
> first Tuesdays each month
> 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield
> 
> * Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
> * May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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From mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za  Tue Mar  6 07:56:11 2018
From: mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za (Maria Keet)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:56:11 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Wiki update
In-Reply-To: <CADM4J9xYTMEGLjG9ZA1rum_n7EAjRwf3qD=gb7hKs-7qc=574A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD4FEE3F-1392-4135-A720-87DB7D8EAEAE@greenwich.ac.uk>
	<71b866ab665694fd4adfc6143935ae71@etsii.upm.es>
	<CADM4J9yD7SxMsh5ikxqOM57zN8w6oA7cksN6EsiWYTMLFNtgzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADM4J9xYTMEGLjG9ZA1rum_n7EAjRwf3qD=gb7hKs-7qc=574A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6182c640-f2af-dabf-b4c6-b1eef4817aae@cs.uct.ac.za>

Hi Robert,

On 05/03/2018 2:46, rrovetto at buffalo.edu wrote:
> ...also, the About page 
> (http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=Main.About) mentions
> 1) completing 3 projects "over the next two years"
> Have those two years past (2015-2017)?
yes, they have. We discussed new projects for this year in the last 
meeting, which...
>
> 2) an Ontology textbook.
> What is the status of the textbook?
.... still includes the ontology textbook, but then with more concrete 
dates. and having something by the end of 2018.
It also includes the wiki, and especially the term list. We have set 
ourselves a target for comprehensiveness of it by early September, so 
that it can be used as a resource at the upcoming ISAO 2018 
[http://isao2018.cs.uct.ac.za/].

Regards,
Maria

----
Dr. C. Maria Keet
Senior Lecturer
Department of Computer Science
University of Cape Town
Cape Town, South Africa
tel: +27 21 650 2667
fax: +27 21 650 3551
email:mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za
work:http://www.cs.uct.ac.za
home:http://www.meteck.org


> I would consider it a top priority to have IAOA publish a neutral and 
> comprehensive ontology text that incorporates various methodologies, 
> approaches, and input from various ontology professionals across 
> sectors (industry, academia, etc.) and subject-matter disciplines.
>
> Rob
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From arwesterinen at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 07:46:51 2018
From: arwesterinen at gmail.com (Andrea Westerinen)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 01:46:51 -0500
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <CALThp9nPtXwv-qtFmjnXr4HKr=inHcKpWMbDf0Y9dgZ1YPoynw@mail.gmail.com>

I will not be able to attend due to other meetings. Sorry.

Andrea Westerinen
T: 425.891.8407
arwesterinen at gmail.com or andreaw at ninepts.com
organizingknowledge.blogspot.com

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Frank Loebe <
frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> my apologies for the extremely short notice, but in the last meeting we
> decided to keep the next Education Committee meeting on its regular
> schedule, i.e., as follows:
>
>    --> Meeting n.27             Tue, Mar 06, 2018 [1]
>        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST
>
>    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
>    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180306
>
> Unfortunately, the last meeting minutes have not yet been circulated, but
> I plan to do so a bit later. If you cannot make it to the meeting tomorrow,
> I'd be grateful if you could let us know. Again, I'm very sorry for the
> short notice.
>
> Please find a preliminary agenda proposal below and suggest further items
> that you would like to discuss or let me know if certain items cannot be
> dealt with yet. I can only send pre-meeting material later, if at all, I'm
> sorry.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180306T15
>
>
> = 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =
>
> == participants ==
>
> expecting:
>   JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>   MK  Maria Keet
>   FL  Frank Loebe
>   SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
>   TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
>   AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
>   ZW  Zena Wood
>
> regrets:
>   < none >
>
> == agenda ==
>
>    0. adoption of agenda
>
>  ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
>       a. 1st call for participation?
>       b. website - officially online?
>       c. pub quiz desired?
>       d. other
>
>    2. EduTC planning for 2018
>       a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
>       b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]
>
>    3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
>       a. requirements                                [MK]
>       b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]
>
>    4. wiki maintenance
>       a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
>       b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
>       c. other updates?
>
>  ? 5. pub quizzes
>       a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
>       b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]
>
>    6. AOB
>
>    7. next meeting(s)
>
>
> == next meetings ==
>
> first Tuesdays each month
> 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield
>
> * Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
> * May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za  Tue Mar  6 15:01:09 2018
From: mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za (Maria Keet)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:01:09 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>

Dear All,

I've copied below the draft Wiki migration requirements and 
considerations. For the meeting later today: in using the current wiki, 
do you perceive the need for more features (first list of items)?

----
Requirements:
- anyone can edit
- to prevent hacks, with a password
- least effort in migration. It currently uses PMWiki, so a ?copy? would 
be fastest (note: PMWiki does not offer user management, i.e., anon 
edits only, and is not a semantic wiki).
- adding pictures or files within the same wiki-world would be useful
- there has been mention of the possibility of adding comments, alike a 
forum capability. PMWiki does not offer this features
- some branding with the url, i.e., not in a ?corner? of the Web
- display IAOA logo (or our own)
- A bibliography feature?
- perhaps with user names rather than anonymous as it is now?
- any other requirements or wishes?

Regarding alternatives:

If other wiki software, in case the other features are now deemed needed 
and those wikis have them:
- downside is that then need to manually recreate  contents (copy-paste, 
edit for syntax).

If Semantic wiki: in theory good, but note
- who has experience in practice to actually get the semantics in?
- what sort of queries/dynamic content would be ?interesting? for a 
visitor? If hardly any, than what?s the point? If so: please provide 
examples of possible good use of semantic wiki features.
- pro: walking the walk?

If blogging software, such as migrating to wordpress:
- more cumbersome to edit than a wiki
- more cumbersome to create user logins, so increases the hurdle for 
people to contribute
- WP at least isn?t good for managing (very) many pages (but we?ll have 
a lot if each term gets its own page)
- need to manually recreate  contents (copy-paste, edit for syntax and 
layout)
- pro: may be easier to integrate with the iaoa website?
----

Regards,
Maria

----
Dr. C. Maria Keet
Senior Lecturer
Department of Computer Science
University of Cape Town
Cape Town, South Africa
tel: +27 21 650 2667
fax: +27 21 650 3551
email:mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za
work:http://www.cs.uct.ac.za
home:http://www.meteck.org



On 05/03/2018 22:23, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> my apologies for the extremely short notice, but in the last meeting 
> we decided to keep the next Education Committee meeting on its regular 
> schedule, i.e., as follows:
>
>    --> Meeting n.27             Tue, Mar 06, 2018 [1]
>        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST
>
>    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
>    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180306
>
> Unfortunately, the last meeting minutes have not yet been circulated, 
> but I plan to do so a bit later. If you cannot make it to the meeting 
> tomorrow, I'd be grateful if you could let us know. Again, I'm very 
> sorry for the short notice.
>
> Please find a preliminary agenda proposal below and suggest further 
> items that you would like to discuss or let me know if certain items 
> cannot be dealt with yet. I can only send pre-meeting material later, 
> if at all, I'm sorry.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180306T15
>
>
> = 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =
>
> == participants ==
>
> expecting:
>   JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>   MK  Maria Keet
>   FL  Frank Loebe
>   SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
>   TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
>   AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
>   ZW  Zena Wood
>
> regrets:
>   < none >
>
> == agenda ==
>
>    0. adoption of agenda
>
>  ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
>       a. 1st call for participation?
>       b. website - officially online?
>       c. pub quiz desired?
>       d. other
>
>    2. EduTC planning for 2018
>       a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
>       b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]
>
>    3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
>       a. requirements                                [MK]
>       b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]
>
>    4. wiki maintenance
>       a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
>       b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
>       c. other updates?
>
>  ? 5. pub quizzes
>       a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
>       b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]
>
>    6. AOB
>
>    7. next meeting(s)
>
>
> == next meetings ==
>
> first Tuesdays each month
> 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield
>
> * Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
> * May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> To Post:      mailto:iaoa-education at ovgu.de
> Msg Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/
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From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de  Tue Mar  6 15:14:45 2018
From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 15:14:45 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.26 on Tue,
	Feb 20, 2018: minutes
In-Reply-To: <f941c647-28fb-1e31-c0ca-b4067be1baa6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <f941c647-28fb-1e31-c0ca-b4067be1baa6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <f53525a8-c181-4cbd-4fc4-5691e2b76b8e@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>

Dear all,

please find below and attached the minutes of the Education Committee 
meeting n.26, held two weeks ago. I'm sorry that this hasn't been 
distributed earlier, including myself not being able to do it earlier 
since yesterday's announcement of today's meeting.

I have made minor edits, including 2 rearrangements to bring 
interrelated lines closer together and adding an ACTION-marker in one line.

If you have any comments or change requests, please let me know.

Best regards,
Frank


= 26th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Feb 20, 2018 =

    --> Meeting n.26         Tue, Feb 20, 2018 [2] (+1d = Wed, Feb 21)
        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST / 02:00+1d AEDT

    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180220


-- chat transcript, lightly edited --


[16:02] ZenaWood: == agenda ==

   0. adoption of agenda

! 1. update on ISAO 2018                [?ISAO Chairs?, MK]
      a. organizing schedule
      b. programme / facilitators
      c. 1st call for participation
      d. website
      e. budget
      f. other

! 2. EduTC planning for 2018                       [all]
      a. goals
      b. scheduling

   3. wiki maintenance
?    a. updates to textbook listing                 [ZW]
      b. moving to an IAOA server                    [FL]
      c. other updates?
D   (d. term/definition and formatting updates    [FL, all])

? 4. pub quizzes
      a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
      b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]

   5. AOB

   6. next meeting(s)

[16:03] ZenaWood: Maria chairs

[16:06] ZenaWood: Aldo has joined to give an update on ISAO 2018

[16:06] FrankLoebe: < session starts >

[16:06] ZenaWood: Agenda adopted

[16:06] ZenaWood:
== 1. update on ISAO 2018 ==
      a. organizing schedule
      b. programme / facilitators
      c. 1st call for participation
      d. website
      e. budget
      f. other

[16:07] ZenaWood: AG: An update on ISAO 2018. We currently only have two 
lecturers. As soon as we have three we will start putting names on the 
website.

[16:08] MariaKeet: ISAO18 website  http://isao2018.cs.uct.ac.za/

[16:09] ZenaWood: AG: The website has been put together and it is 
working. We are collecting the descriptions from the lecturers to add to 
the website (wait for three to populate). We have had a request from one 
of the lecturers if they could have Saturday as an additional day in the 
school.

[16:09] ZenaWood: MK: The workshops (JOWO) are on Monday and Tuesday, 
then FOIS begins on the Wednesday (Sep 19th)

[16:09] ZenaWood: MK: We could be going until Saturday with the venue

[16:10] ZenaWood: AG: We are considering using Saturday morning

[16:11] ZenaWood: FL: What is the motivation?

[16:11] ZenaWood: AG: It is for logistics, since the lecturer cannot 
arrive in Cape Town until Thursday.

[16:11] ZenaWood: AG: Saturday morning also gives more time for 
interacting with students

[16:12] ZenaWood: FL: Are there any issues with the rooms?

[16:12] ZenaWood: MK: No there are no issues for the rooms

[16:13] ZenaWood: <Discussion of who has been invited>

[16:14] ZenaWood: MK: Do you want to invite any of the local people?

[16:16] ZenaWood: FL: With regards to scheduling, when will you be 
sending out the first call of participation?

[16:16] ZenaWood: AG: We should have the set of three names in the next 
few days so that we can start publicising.

[16:19] ZenaWood: FL: We need to an initial budget for the summer school 
to establish what the fees will be. Is any one working on the budget?

[16:19] ZenaWood: AG: We are calling it summer school but it is not in 
the summer

[16:19] ZenaWood: FL: In the acronym, seasons are not included

[16:20] ZenaWood: MK: I have put a draft budget together for the 
different scenarios. This has been sent to Antony and Aldo. I am 
concerned on the money and would like it to be cheaper than ISAO 2016.

[16:21] ZenaWood: MK: Aiming for registration to be app. 200 euros

[16:22] anonymous morphed into SandraLovrencic

[16:22] ZenaWood: MK: The main expense is inviting the lecturers

[16:22] ToddSchneider: Will participants have to bring their own water?

[16:27] MariaKeet: @Todd: yes, there will be water. it's after winter 
(when there's the rainfall)

[16:23] ZenaWood: AG: We hope to be ready to send the call for 
applications in one to two weeks

[16:24] ZenaWood: FL: Who will be distributing it?

[16:24] ZenaWood: MK: ACTION: Contact publicity chair for FOIS

[16:25] ZenaWood: AG: Is there any chance that students could convey 
what they have come up with during school at FOIS?

[16:25] ZenaWood: TS: How much of agenda will be directed to 
applications rather than more academic focus?

[16:25] ZenaWood: AG: We are trying to get it a bit more applied

[16:26] MariaKeet: I think it should be possible to squeeze it into the 
FOIS programme. Possibly ECS, or else as one slot. will mention it at 
tomorrow's call (FOIS organisation)

[16:27] ZenaWood: TS: We would like to attract more people from industry

[16:28] ZenaWood: AG: We could have a project that is more focused on a 
particular industry application

[16:32] ZenaWood: .
== 2. EduTC planning for 2018 ==
      a. goals
      b. scheduling

[16:32] ZenaWood: MK: We should have a project of our own to work on

[16:33] ZenaWood: TS: We already have some goals - textbook/term list/quiz

[16:33] ZenaWood: ZW: My goal is to move the textbook forward this year

[16:35] ZenaWood: MK: Need to update the list of who wants to be involved

[16:36] ZenaWood: ZW: Need to update the overall chapter structures

[16:36] ZenaWood: MK: We need to distinguish between what we can finish 
this year and longer term goal

[16:37] ZenaWood: FL: We could set into smaller chunks. We could give a 
date for when the structure can be finalised and then material can be 
filled in. This deadline should be in 2018

[16:37] ZenaWood: TS: Could the draft not be in 2018? Then edit it all 
together afterwards.

[16:37] ZenaWood: TS: Just collect all of the information and 
contributions for 2018 and edit in 2019

[16:38] ZenaWood: FL: We could get the structure by May and then from 
May on to gather material.

[16:39] ZenaWood: TS: Do we need to wait for overall contents?

[16:39] ZenaWood: TS: First goal, by next meeting look at proposed 
structure and see if it is adequate and see what revisions need to be 
made to the content?

[16:40] ZenaWood: FL: What does requesting contributions mean?

[16:40] ZenaWood: ZW: We should assign an individual to be in charge of 
gathering data for each chapter

[16:41] ZenaWood: MK: We may have several people writing the smaller 
things for each chapter if we issue a general call. Can we not identify 
suitable people and invite them based on their expertise?

[16:41] ZenaWood: MK: Different terminology is used. Term list was meant 
to help with a harmonised list to provide an easier step to get to the 
text book.

[16:42] ZenaWood: TS: Could be difficult to write a whole chapter given 
time constraints will be difficult so asking for contributions would be 
easier

[16:42] ZenaWood: MK: It is a textbook so a chapter should be smaller

[16:43] ZenaWood: ZW: Would be good to specify how long the chapters are 
so we do not get too long

[16:43] ZenaWood: TS: The contents will be refined to ensure small chapters

[16:43] ZenaWood: TS: Having a larger corpus of material to work with 
will help

[16:46] ZenaWood: ACTION: ZW send link to education committee asking to 
attend a textbook meeting just after next meeting and if people cannot 
make it then send comments by email

[16:48] ZenaWood: Textbook link: 
https://www.overleaf.com/8961103ygxjxyknnvnh#/32111397/

[16:46] ZenaWood: MK: Main planning for 2018 is to get the textbook off 
the ground

[16:47] ZenaWood: MK: Other for 2018 ...

[16:47] ZenaWood: FL: Continue with the term list

[16:47] ZenaWood: FL: would be good to have an initial draft of term 
list by ISAO 2018

[16:48] ZenaWood: MK: Would be good if the wiki could be used at the school

[16:49] ZenaWood: MK: We need to decide on a format for the next meeting 
so that we have half a year to complete the term list

[16:49] ZenaWood: FL: Could also have the goal of moving the wiki to the 
IAOA server

[16:50] ZenaWood: FL: Need to work with the infrastructure committee to 
decided what form it ends up (run as a PMwiki or convert to Wordpress)

[16:50] ZenaWood: TS: Is the site up yet?

[16:51] ZenaWood: FL: Yes but not under the iaoa.org itself

[16:52] ZenaWood: TS: How much work to get it into wordpress?

[16:52] ZenaWood: MK: Will be manual processes needed

[16:52] ZenaWood: FL: Would need restricted access to wiki part

[16:53] ZenaWood: FL: Need to meet with infrastructure committee

[16:55] ZenaWood: FL: I can write an email to the infrastructure 
committee regarding the request to move the wiki and ask for a special 
meeting comprising members for both groups

[16:55] ZenaWood: FL: Who would like to join the meeting?

[16:55] ZenaWood: TS: Could it be resolved by email?

[16:56] ZenaWood: ACTION FL: Email infrastructure committee with list of 
requirements

[16:56] ZenaWood: TS: Do we have a list of requirements?

[16:57] ZenaWood: MK: ACTION to write up an initial list of requirements

[16:57] ZenaWood: .
== 3. wiki maintenance ==
?    a. updates to textbook listing                 [ZW]
      b. moving to an IAOA server                    [FL]
      c. other updates?
D   (d. term/definition and formatting updates    [FL, all])

[16:59] ZenaWood: MK: We should set a deadline of 1st September to have 
a complete draft of term list

[16:59] ToddSchneider: Need to keep in mind what are the [web] 
capabilities that are needed (for this group).

[16:59] ZenaWood: FL: We need to maintain list of textbooks and courses 
to check URLs are accessible

[17:00] ZenaWood: ZW: I have emailed education committee to request 
updates on textbooks and courses

[17:00] ZenaWood: Need to agree on formatting of term list

[17:01] ZenaWood: FL: format of term list will be discussed in next meeting.

[17:01] ZenaWood: ACTION: Draft timeline for textbook work in 2018

[17:01] ZenaWood: ACTION: FL: Draft timeline for term list tasks to 
ensure that it is completed for ISAO 2018

[17:03] ZenaWood: ACTION: ZW: Finish 2016 quiz draft in wordpress

[17:04] ZenaWood: MK: Not clear if we are having a ISAO 2018 quiz.

[17:04] ZenaWood: FL: We should ask Aldo to see if they want it - can we 
follow up by email

[17:04] ZenaWood: ACTION MK: Follow up with Aldo

[17:04] ZenaWood: 5. AOB

[17:05] ZenaWood: FL: Does Maria's budget contain any funding from IAOA 
or is it fully break even based on the fees?

[17:05] ZenaWood: MK: Fully break even on the fees

[17:06] ZenaWood: MK: I have also sent out sponsorship requests for 
ISAO/FOIS but I am waiting to hear from those (one should report in March)

[17:07] ZenaWood: ACTION FL: To take finance discussion with regards to 
ISAO/FOIS to the EC

[17:08] ZenaWood: MK: We need the CMC contract by March latest

[17:08] ZenaWood: FL: We should be able to make decisions in the next EC 
meeting on March 5th

[17:10] ZenaWood: FL: ACTION: send modifications requests to MK after EC 
discussions but will try to speed up the EC decision process

[17:10] ZenaWood: .
== 6. next meeting(s) ==

[17:10] ZenaWood: FL: Next meeting would be March 6th

[post-meeting addition] agreed on Mar 06


[17:14] FrankLoebe: .
== participants ==
* JB Julita Bermejo-Alonso
* AG Aldo Gangemi           [invited]
* MK MariaKeet
* FL Frank Loebe
* SL Sandra Lovrencic
* TS Todd Schneider
* ZW Zena Wood

[17:14] FrankLoebe: < transcript ends >
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= 26th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Feb 20, 2018 =

   --> Meeting n.26         Tue, Feb 20, 2018 [2] (+1d = Wed, Feb 21)
       10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST / 02:00+1d AEDT

   Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
   Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180220


-- chat transcript, lightly edited --


[16:02] ZenaWood: == agenda ==

  0. adoption of agenda

! 1. update on ISAO 2018                [?ISAO Chairs?, MK]
     a. organizing schedule
     b. programme / facilitators
     c. 1st call for participation
     d. website
     e. budget
     f. other

! 2. EduTC planning for 2018                       [all]
     a. goals
     b. scheduling

  3. wiki maintenance
?    a. updates to textbook listing                 [ZW]
     b. moving to an IAOA server                    [FL]
     c. other updates?
D   (d. term/definition and formatting updates    [FL, all])

? 4. pub quizzes
     a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
     b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]

  5. AOB

  6. next meeting(s)

[16:03] ZenaWood: Maria chairs

[16:06] ZenaWood: Aldo has joined to give an update on ISAO 2018

[16:06] FrankLoebe: < session starts >

[16:06] ZenaWood: Agenda adopted

[16:06] ZenaWood:
== 1. update on ISAO 2018 ==
     a. organizing schedule
     b. programme / facilitators
     c. 1st call for participation
     d. website
     e. budget
     f. other

[16:07] ZenaWood: AG: An update on ISAO 2018. We currently only have two lecturers. As soon as we have three we will start putting names on the website.

[16:08] MariaKeet: ISAO18 website  http://isao2018.cs.uct.ac.za/

[16:09] ZenaWood: AG: The website has been put together and it is working. We are collecting the descriptions from the lecturers to add to the website (wait for three to populate). We have had a request from one of the lecturers if they could have Saturday as an additional day in the school.

[16:09] ZenaWood: MK: The workshops (JOWO) are on Monday and Tuesday, then FOIS begins on the Wednesday (Sep 19th)

[16:09] ZenaWood: MK: We could be going until Saturday with the venue

[16:10] ZenaWood: AG: We are considering using Saturday morning

[16:11] ZenaWood: FL: What is the motivation?

[16:11] ZenaWood: AG: It is for logistics, since the lecturer cannot arrive in Cape Town until Thursday.

[16:11] ZenaWood: AG: Saturday morning also gives more time for interacting with students

[16:12] ZenaWood: FL: Are there any issues with the rooms?

[16:12] ZenaWood: MK: No there are no issues for the rooms

[16:13] ZenaWood: <Discussion of who has been invited>

[16:14] ZenaWood: MK: Do you want to invite any of the local people?

[16:16] ZenaWood: FL: With regards to scheduling, when will you be sending out the first call of participation?

[16:16] ZenaWood: AG: We should have the set of three names in the next few days so that we can start publicising.

[16:19] ZenaWood: FL: We need to an initial budget for the summer school to establish what the fees will be. Is any one working on the budget?

[16:19] ZenaWood: AG: We are calling it summer school but it is not in the summer

[16:19] ZenaWood: FL: In the acronym, seasons are not included

[16:20] ZenaWood: MK: I have put a draft budget together for the different scenarios. This has been sent to Antony and Aldo. I am concerned on the money and would like it to be cheaper than ISAO 2016.

[16:21] ZenaWood: MK: Aiming for registration to be app. 200 euros

[16:22] anonymous morphed into SandraLovrencic

[16:22] ZenaWood: MK: The main expense is inviting the lecturers

[16:22] ToddSchneider: Will participants have to bring their own water?

[16:27] MariaKeet: @Todd: yes, there will be water. it's after winter (when there's the rainfall)

[16:23] ZenaWood: AG: We hope to be ready to send the call for applications in one to two weeks

[16:24] ZenaWood: FL: Who will be distributing it?

[16:24] ZenaWood: MK: ACTION: Contact publicity chair for FOIS

[16:25] ZenaWood: AG: Is there any chance that students could convey what they have come up with during school at FOIS?

[16:25] ZenaWood: TS: How much of agenda will be directed to applications rather than more academic focus?

[16:25] ZenaWood: AG: We are trying to get it a bit more applied

[16:26] MariaKeet: I think it should be possible to squeeze it into the FOIS programme. Possibly ECS, or else as one slot. will mention it at tomorrow's call (FOIS organisation)

[16:27] ZenaWood: TS: We would like to attract more people from industry

[16:28] ZenaWood: AG: We could have a project that is more focused on a particular industry application

[16:32] ZenaWood: .
== 2. EduTC planning for 2018 ==
     a. goals
     b. scheduling

[16:32] ZenaWood: MK: We should have a project of our own to work on

[16:33] ZenaWood: TS: We already have some goals - textbook/term list/quiz

[16:33] ZenaWood: ZW: My goal is to move the textbook forward this year

[16:35] ZenaWood: MK: Need to update the list of who wants to be involved

[16:36] ZenaWood: ZW: Need to update the overall chapter structures

[16:36] ZenaWood: MK: We need to distinguish between what we can finish this year and longer term goal

[16:37] ZenaWood: FL: We could set into smaller chunks. We could give a date for when the structure can be finalised and then material can be filled in. This deadline should be in 2018

[16:37] ZenaWood: TS: Could the draft not be in 2018? Then edit it all together afterwards.

[16:37] ZenaWood: TS: Just collect all of the information and contributions for 2018 and edit in 2019

[16:38] ZenaWood: FL: We could get the structure by May and then from May on to gather material.

[16:39] ZenaWood: TS: Do we need to wait for overall contents?

[16:39] ZenaWood: TS: First goal, by next meeting look at proposed structure and see if it is adequate and see what revisions need to be made to the content?

[16:40] ZenaWood: FL: What does requesting contributions mean?

[16:40] ZenaWood: ZW: We should assign an individual to be in charge of gathering data for each chapter

[16:41] ZenaWood: MK: We may have several people writing the smaller things for each chapter if we issue a general call. Can we not identify suitable people and invite them based on their expertise?

[16:41] ZenaWood: MK: Different terminology is used. Term list was meant to help with a harmonised list to provide an easier step to get to the text book.

[16:42] ZenaWood: TS: Could be difficult to write a whole chapter given time constraints will be difficult so asking for contributions would be easier

[16:42] ZenaWood: MK: It is a textbook so a chapter should be smaller

[16:43] ZenaWood: ZW: Would be good to specify how long the chapters are so we do not get too long

[16:43] ZenaWood: TS: The contents will be refined to ensure small chapters

[16:43] ZenaWood: TS: Having a larger corpus of material to work with will help

[16:46] ZenaWood: ACTION: ZW send link to education committee asking to attend a textbook meeting just after next meeting and if people cannot make it then send comments by email

[16:48] ZenaWood: Textbook link: https://www.overleaf.com/8961103ygxjxyknnvnh#/32111397/

[16:46] ZenaWood: MK: Main planning for 2018 is to get the textbook off the ground

[16:47] ZenaWood: MK: Other for 2018 ...

[16:47] ZenaWood: FL: Continue with the term list

[16:47] ZenaWood: FL: would be good to have an initial draft of term list by ISAO 2018

[16:48] ZenaWood: MK: Would be good if the wiki could be used at the school

[16:49] ZenaWood: MK: We need to decide on a format for the next meeting so that we have half a year to complete the term list

[16:49] ZenaWood: FL: Could also have the goal of moving the wiki to the IAOA server

[16:50] ZenaWood: FL: Need to work with the infrastructure committee to decided what form it ends up (run as a PMwiki or convert to Wordpress)

[16:50] ZenaWood: TS: Is the site up yet?

[16:51] ZenaWood: FL: Yes but not under the iaoa.org itself

[16:52] ZenaWood: TS: How much work to get it into wordpress?

[16:52] ZenaWood: MK: Will be manual processes needed

[16:52] ZenaWood: FL: Would need restricted access to wiki part

[16:53] ZenaWood: FL: Need to meet with infrastructure committee

[16:55] ZenaWood: FL: I can write an email to the infrastructure committee regarding the request to move the wiki and ask for a special meeting comprising members for both groups

[16:55] ZenaWood: FL: Who would like to join the meeting?

[16:55] ZenaWood: TS: Could it be resolved by email?

[16:56] ZenaWood: ACTION FL: Email infrastructure committee with list of requirements

[16:56] ZenaWood: TS: Do we have a list of requirements?

[16:57] ZenaWood: MK: ACTION to write up an initial list of requirements

[16:57] ZenaWood: .
== 3. wiki maintenance ==
?    a. updates to textbook listing                 [ZW]
     b. moving to an IAOA server                    [FL]
     c. other updates?
D   (d. term/definition and formatting updates    [FL, all])

[16:59] ZenaWood: MK: We should set a deadline of 1st September to have a complete draft of term list

[16:59] ToddSchneider: Need to keep in mind what are the [web] capabilities that are needed (for this group).

[16:59] ZenaWood: FL: We need to maintain list of textbooks and courses to check URLs are accessible

[17:00] ZenaWood: ZW: I have emailed education committee to request updates on textbooks and courses

[17:00] ZenaWood: Need to agree on formatting of term list

[17:01] ZenaWood: FL: format of term list will be discussed in next meeting.

[17:01] ZenaWood: ACTION: Draft timeline for textbook work in 2018

[17:01] ZenaWood: ACTION: FL: Draft timeline for term list tasks to ensure that it is completed for ISAO 2018

[17:03] ZenaWood: ACTION: ZW: Finish 2016 quiz draft in wordpress

[17:04] ZenaWood: MK: Not clear if we are having a ISAO 2018 quiz.

[17:04] ZenaWood: FL: We should ask Aldo to see if they want it - can we follow up by email

[17:04] ZenaWood: ACTION MK: Follow up with Aldo

[17:04] ZenaWood: 5. AOB

[17:05] ZenaWood: FL: Does Maria's budget contain any funding from IAOA or is it fully break even based on the fees?

[17:05] ZenaWood: MK: Fully break even on the fees

[17:06] ZenaWood: MK: I have also sent out sponsorship requests for ISAO/FOIS but I am waiting to hear from those (one should report in March)

[17:07] ZenaWood: ACTION FL: To take finance discussion with regards to ISAO/FOIS to the EC

[17:08] ZenaWood: MK: We need the CMC contract by March latest

[17:08] ZenaWood: FL: We should be able to make decisions in the next EC meeting on March 5th

[17:10] ZenaWood: FL: ACTION: send modifications requests to MK after EC discussions but will try to speed up the EC decision process

[17:10] ZenaWood: .
== 6. next meeting(s) ==

[17:10] ZenaWood: FL: Next meeting would be March 6th

[post-meeting addition] agreed on Mar 06


[17:14] FrankLoebe: .
== participants ==
* JB Julita Bermejo-Alonso
* AG Aldo Gangemi           [invited]
* MK MariaKeet
* FL Frank Loebe
* SL Sandra Lovrencic
* TS Todd Schneider
* ZW Zena Wood

[17:14] FrankLoebe: < transcript ends >

From mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za  Tue Mar  6 17:52:12 2018
From: mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za (Maria Keet)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 18:52:12 +0200
Subject: [iaoa-education] Transcript IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27
	on Tue, Mar 06, 2018
In-Reply-To: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <f6e4d49e-b5be-037b-b9dd-1d5ab812f20c@cs.uct.ac.za>

Dear All,

Please find attached the transcript of today's meeting.

Regards,
Maria


----
Dr. C. Maria Keet
Senior Lecturer
Department of Computer Science
University of Cape Town
Cape Town, South Africa
tel: +27 21 650 2667
fax: +27 21 650 3551
email:mkeet at cs.uct.ac.za
work:http://www.cs.uct.ac.za
home:http://www.meteck.org



On 05/03/2018 22:23, Frank Loebe wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> my apologies for the extremely short notice, but in the last meeting 
> we decided to keep the next Education Committee meeting on its regular 
> schedule, i.e., as follows:
>
>    --> Meeting n.27             Tue, Mar 06, 2018 [1]
>        10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST
>
>    Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd
>    Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20180306
>
> Unfortunately, the last meeting minutes have not yet been circulated, 
> but I plan to do so a bit later. If you cannot make it to the meeting 
> tomorrow, I'd be grateful if you could let us know. Again, I'm very 
> sorry for the short notice.
>
> Please find a preliminary agenda proposal below and suggest further 
> items that you would like to discuss or let me know if certain items 
> cannot be dealt with yet. I can only send pre-meeting material later, 
> if at all, I'm sorry.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180306T15
>
>
> = 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =
>
> == participants ==
>
> expecting:
>   JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
>   MK  Maria Keet
>   FL  Frank Loebe
>   SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
>   TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
>   AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
>   ZW  Zena Wood
>
> regrets:
>   < none >
>
> == agenda ==
>
>    0. adoption of agenda
>
>  ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
>       a. 1st call for participation?
>       b. website - officially online?
>       c. pub quiz desired?
>       d. other
>
>    2. EduTC planning for 2018
>       a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
>       b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]
>
>    3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
>       a. requirements                                [MK]
>       b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]
>
>    4. wiki maintenance
>       a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
>       b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
>       c. other updates?
>
>  ? 5. pub quizzes
>       a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
>       b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]
>
>    6. AOB
>
>    7. next meeting(s)
>
>
> == next meetings ==
>
> first Tuesdays each month
> 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield
>
> * Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
> * May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?
>
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MariaKeet: = 27th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Mar 06, 2018 =

== participants ==

expecting:
  JB  Julita Bermejo-Alonso
  MK  Maria Keet
  FL  Frank Loebe
  SL  Sandra Lovrencic   (?)
  TS  Todd Schneider     (?)
  AW  Andrea Westerinen  (?)
  ZW  Zena Wood

regrets:
  < none >

== agenda ==

   0. adoption of agenda

 ! 1. update on ISAO 2018                            [MK]
      a. 1st call for participation?
      b. website - officially online?
      c. pub quiz desired?
      d. other

   2. EduTC planning for 2018
      a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
      b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]

   3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
      a. requirements                                [MK]
      b. interaction with Infrastructure Committee   [FL]

   4. wiki maintenance
      a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
      b. term/definition and formatting updates      [FL]
      c. other updates?

 ? 5. pub quizzes
      a. ISAO 2016 quiz draft in Wordpress           [ZW]
      b. ISAO 2018: Google doc?                      [ZW]

   6. AOB

   7. next meeting(s)


== next meetings ==

first Tuesdays each month
10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 17:00 SAST  yield

* Apr 03, 2018  => 1 day after after Easter Monday 2018 => shift?
* May 01, 2018  => holiday in some countries (labor day) => shift?
MariaKeet: 0. adoption of agenda
MariaKeet: adopted
MariaKeet: ======== 1. update on ISAO 2018======
ZenaWood: MK: 1st cfp should be going out next week
ZenaWood: MK: 1 confirmed external speaker for ISAO 2018 and 1 tentative
MariaKeet: http://isao2018.cs.uct.ac.za/
ZenaWood: MK:The website is up and running
ZenaWood: MK: The link can be distributed
ZenaWood: MK: Still unclear if they want a pub quiz
ZenaWood: MK: Don?t think so because they are doing the mini project
ZenaWood: MK:It will be from Monday afternoon to Saturday morning - website will be updated accordingly
ZenaWood: TS: Is the water issue going to be a problem?
ZenaWood: MK: In short, no
ZenaWood: MK: It will be at the end of the rainy season
ZenaWood: 2. EduTC planning for 2018
      a. timeline for textbook work in 2018          [ZW]
      b. timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018      [FL]
MariaKeet: ======= 2. EduTC planning for 2018
MariaKeet: ZW: apologies. no textbook email seems to have gone out
MariaKeet: textbook timeline: ZW will send that out still
MariaKeet: ZW: draft timeline by end of April
MariaKeet: ZW: then allocating people to chapters
MariaKeet: ZW: time till end of September to write
MariaKeet: ZW: we'll solicit writers
MariaKeet: ZW: end of september start editing, for a year (?) or so? finding publishers etc
MariaKeet: TS: hardcopy?
MariaKeet: TS: who copyright?
MariaKeet: FL: want an ISB number or not? incentive for authors when published by publisher?
MariaKeet: TS: who can get ISBN number?
MariaKeet: all: anyone
MariaKeet: FL: open access or not?
MariaKeet: IOS Press or not?
MariaKeet: TS: how would your students to generate copies? hard or soft?
MariaKeet: TS: prefers hardcopies
MariaKeet: ZW: their uni prefers softcopies
MariaKeet: JB: most in Spain go electronic. but try to have some hardcopy
MariaKeet: SL: students buy the hardcopies
MariaKeet: FL: print-on-demand?
MariaKeet: ZW: structure the options in the overleaf document
MariaKeet: [ZW ACTION]: will collect the options for publishing
MariaKeet: ZW: discuss that then later at a textbook meeting
MariaKeet: ======== timeline for termlist before ISAO 2018
MariaKeet: FL: apologies on that
MariaKeet: FL: will do by next meeting
MariaKeet: TS: formatting the only remaining concern?
MariaKeet: FL: have we all terms we need?
MariaKeet: SL: we have examples. decide which one to use?
ZenaWood: FL: We seemed to have lost you on call
FrankLoebe: I can hear you
ToddSchneider: Frank we lost your audio.
FrankLoebe: yes
FrankLoebe: that's true
FrankLoebe: I'll re-calll
MariaKeet: timeline...
FrankLoebe: can you hear me?
MariaKeet: SL: without definitions, just the list?
ToddSchneider: No, can't hear you yet
MariaKeet: MK: I thought with definitions
MariaKeet: TS: timeline in context of ISAO?
MariaKeet: FL: yes
MariaKeet: ZW: week before, and time to announce it to them
MariaKeet: FL: to do: overall selection of terms. and cover each term with at least one definition. ideally also with one 'highlighted' definition for each term
MariaKeet: FL: need some kind of trade-off between usefulness and balance of definitions
MariaKeet: TS: did some editing on prioritising definitions
MariaKeet: TS: + feedback from ISAO participants
MariaKeet: FL: naive timeline: count number of terms, and divide time by those terms
MariaKeet: TS: how many do not have a definition yet?
MariaKeet: SL+MK: held back adding over the past while due to unclarity on formatting
MariaKeet: <some discussion on importance of terms>
MariaKeet: ZW: include some notion of review in the timeline
MariaKeet: TS: let's just go ahead with current formatting?
MariaKeet: FL: formatting issues: how to do the references, checking thereof.
MariaKeet: FL: priority is getting the content in
MariaKeet: FL: continuant page has 3 variants of formatting. I prefer first one
MariaKeet: TS: why D1, not variant 1.1?
MariaKeet: FL: D1 is an attempt to merge
MariaKeet: FL: and a handy/shorthand version
MariaKeet: ZW: this is actually also item 4b
MariaKeet: FL: need to get an idea of amount of workload
MariaKeet: ZW: let's do 4 rather than 3 weeks of consistency check
MariaKeet: FL. ok. begin August then. counting back: then to have a first draft by June
MariaKeet: ZW: so, we have a timeline. then allocate different terms to different people
MariaKeet: [ACTION]: make a list of which definitions to do
MariaKeet: FL: where to document the prioritisation?
MariaKeet: FL: maybe for now just a 'please keep this term in the list for now'? or else a separate googledoc?
MariaKeet: ZW: prefers on same page. and for now: don't delete terms.
MariaKeet: TS: been counting terms in the meantime: 20-24 terms that don't have any definitions now
MariaKeet: FL: some term definitions need a revision still
MariaKeet: references bit flexible, may also be secondary sources.
MariaKeet: [ACTION ALL]: take a look at those terms
MariaKeet: MK: delegate formatting to a student? would be educational for them too
MariaKeet: ========  3. wiki: moving to an IAOA server
MariaKeet: MK: sent out a list of requirements. anyone want to have another feature?
MariaKeet: FL: item one, anyone?
MariaKeet: MK: to record contributor, then add it to the update/edit
MariaKeet: FL: infrastructure meeting: concerns about moving it to WP
MariaKeet: FL: perhaps better to reinstall PMWiki there
MariaKeet: TS: use IAOA access control for WP access control?
MariaKeet: MK: looks like not.
MariaKeet: TS: any automation for transfer to other wiki software? will ask Ken Baklawski
MariaKeet: FL: semantic wiki?
MariaKeet: MK: yes, semantic mediawiki
anonymous2 morphed into Robert Rovetto
MariaKeet: <talk about semantic wiki featurs>
MariaKeet: FL: can we use the PMWiki until September?
MariaKeet: move the decision to migrate to after december
ToddSchneider: Will continue to add and edit term list content on the existing pmWiki.
MariaKeet: FL: will submit the requirements list to the infrastructure committee meeting
MariaKeet: MK: some questions on requirements still. see list
MariaKeet: ZW: lets do via email, in interest of time
MariaKeet: =======    4. wiki maintenance
MariaKeet: a. updates to textbook listing: some issues    [JB]
MariaKeet: JB: was adding books, but didn't know where to place them. missing some rules how to do that
MariaKeet: JB: is there one?
Robert Rovetto: I notice that as well--where to place texts, unclear ways of classifying texts
MariaKeet: JB: by year, and more recent ones first?
MariaKeet: FL: by topic? e.g., applied ontology as central matter, then by proximity
Robert Rovetto: Re:term list... To the extent the IAOA will distinguish between types of ontology (philosophical, formal, applied, computational, etc.), it might be helpful to make some notes on whether term definitions are FROM or FOR philosophical/formal/applied/computational ontology.
MariaKeet: FL: and KR and semweb less proximate
MariaKeet: TS: use one of the library classification schemes?
MariaKeet: SL: I know one, but not clear how well it applies to these books
MariaKeet: [SL ACTION will look up the scheme w.r.t. the topics, and w.r.t. fine-grainedness
MariaKeet: JB: ok, will start adding in the meantime
MariaKeet: ====       4c. other updates?
MariaKeet: no
MariaKeet: ======= 5. pub quizzes
MariaKeet: ZW: ongoing
ToddSchneider: U.S. Library of Congress Classification: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/lcc.html
MariaKeet: ZW: will set up a googledoc
MariaKeet: =========    6. AOB
MariaKeet: none
MariaKeet: ======= 
   7. next meeting(s)
MariaKeet: MK: + daylight saving time
MariaKeet: 11-3 in US, 25-3 in Europe
MariaKeet: FL: april 10?
MariaKeet: ZW: would prefer April 10
MariaKeet: MK: either date is fine with me
MariaKeet: SL: as long as it's tuesdays
MariaKeet: agreed: next meeting is april 10
MariaKeet: same time
FrankLoebe: ^ wrt Europe and Northern America
MariaKeet: defer decision on of May meeting to the April meeting
anonymous morphed into Robert Rovetto
MariaKeet: thank you all
List of attendees: FrankLoebe, JulitaBermejo, MariaKeet, Robert Rovetto, SandraLovrencic, ToddSchneider, ZenaWood

From rrovetto at buffalo.edu  Tue Mar  6 17:48:49 2018
From: rrovetto at buffalo.edu (rrovetto at buffalo.edu)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:48:49 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
	<b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>
Message-ID: <CADM4J9zrf5u-nTCk5dqPwjXiERs2pB5ROm7vag17xx7noa7byg@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding the textbook classification topic: I ooked at the Library of
Congress link provided during the call. Here's a couple of links for
category subject headings that might provide some input...
https://www.loc.gov/aba/publications/FreeLCSH/T.pdf   (p.T-142 for
'Textbook')
https://www.loc.gov/aba/publications/FreeLCSH/H.pdf  (p.H-34 for 'Handbook')
http://www.loc.gov/aba/publications/FreeLCGFT/GENRE.pdf  (p.GF-39 for
'Instructional [...]')

Robert
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From tjschneider at covad.net  Tue Mar  6 23:23:25 2018
From: tjschneider at covad.net (Todd Schneider)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:23:25 -0500
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
	<b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>
Message-ID: <636156d0-b21b-92eb-dba7-5017bf433ab2@covad.net>

Gang,

Some questions and possible refinements to the requirements:

0) Are these requirements for a Wiki for the Education committee, just 
the term list, or all of IAOA?
1) Access Control:? Does 'anyone' really mean anyone? Or is it 
restricted to IAOA members?
2) Auditing: Does there need to be an audit trail that identifies the 
user and date-time when changes were made?
3) Uploading: Adding images to pages?
4) Commenting: Commenting on what? Does this include attachments/links?
5) Branding: Who's brand?
6) IAOA Linking: Is this Wiki to be accessible from an IAOA page?

Todd

On 3/6/18 9:01 AM, Maria Keet wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I've copied below the draft Wiki migration requirements and 
> considerations. For the meeting later today: in using the current 
> wiki, do you perceive the need for more features (first list of items)?
>
> ----
> Requirements:
> - anyone can edit
> - to prevent hacks, with a password
> - least effort in migration. It currently uses PMWiki, so a ?copy? 
> would be fastest (note: PMWiki does not offer user management, i.e., 
> anon edits only, and is not a semantic wiki).
> - adding pictures or files within the same wiki-world would be useful
> - there has been mention of the possibility of adding comments, alike 
> a forum capability. PMWiki does not offer this features
> - some branding with the url, i.e., not in a ?corner? of the Web
> - display IAOA logo (or our own)
> - A bibliography feature?
> - perhaps with user names rather than anonymous as it is now?
> - any other requirements or wishes?
>
> Regarding alternatives:
>
> If other wiki software, in case the other features are now deemed 
> needed and those wikis have them:
> - downside is that then need to manually recreate? contents 
> (copy-paste, edit for syntax).
>
> If Semantic wiki: in theory good, but note
> - who has experience in practice to actually get the semantics in?
> - what sort of queries/dynamic content would be ?interesting? for a 
> visitor? If hardly any, than what?s the point? If so: please provide 
> examples of possible good use of semantic wiki features.
> - pro: walking the walk?
>
> If blogging software, such as migrating to wordpress:
> - more cumbersome to edit than a wiki
> - more cumbersome to create user logins, so increases the hurdle for 
> people to contribute
> - WP at least isn?t good for managing (very) many pages (but we?ll 
> have a lot if each term gets its own page)
> - need to manually recreate? contents (copy-paste, edit for syntax and 
> layout)
> - pro: may be easier to integrate with the iaoa website?
> ----
>
> Regards,
> Maria
>


From rrovetto at buffalo.edu  Wed Mar  7 00:09:11 2018
From: rrovetto at buffalo.edu (rrovetto at buffalo.edu)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 00:09:11 +0100
Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting n.27 on Tue,
 Mar 06, 2018: announcement
In-Reply-To: <636156d0-b21b-92eb-dba7-5017bf433ab2@covad.net>
References: <1981a5f4-a403-36c1-17cf-acadc573c4f6@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
	<b4855388-7227-49c3-0cb5-a15995510116@cs.uct.ac.za>
	<636156d0-b21b-92eb-dba7-5017bf433ab2@covad.net>
Message-ID: <CADM4J9wZfPgRsap5UN+zf=3GTpXodpz6-vuAWYwQUCiiWy+yMw@mail.gmail.com>

My initial two-cents, where I have them, are deposited inline below...

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Todd Schneider <tjschneider at covad.net>
wrote:

> Gang,
>
> Some questions and possible refinements to the requirements:
>
> 0) Are these requirements for a Wiki for the Education committee, just the
> term list, or all of IAOA?
> 1) Access Control:  Does 'anyone' really mean anyone? Or is it restricted
> to IAOA members?
>

At the most inclusive level *anyone = *ontology-interested persons.
At the most limited level, *anyone* = an EduCom member responsible for wiki
updates.
At a less limited level *anyone *= EduCom members.
So an intermediate level *anyone *= be IAOA


> 2) Auditing: Does there need to be an audit trail that identifies the user
> and date-time when changes were made?
>

This might depend on (1). My initial thought, though, is no, not for this.


> 3) Uploading: Adding images to pages?
>

Perhaps ontology, graph diagram; examples of things; etc.


> 4) Commenting: Commenting on what? Does this include attachments/links?
> 5) Branding: Who's brand?
>

Branding of IAOA?
If so, then developing associating imagery and content unique to the EduCom
and IAOA? It already has the IAOA red circles logo.
I'm currently a volunteer webmaster of a website in the emergency
management community; and do web content management for a couple of sites
of applied ontologies.
I've grown the audience of the former by speaking with other sites in the
same community and engaged in social media for it.
So these two aspects might help with branding or increasing exposure.


> 6) IAOA Linking: Is this Wiki to be accessible from an IAOA page?
>
> My initial thought would be yes.


> Todd
>
>
> On 3/6/18 9:01 AM, Maria Keet wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I've copied below the draft Wiki migration requirements and
>> considerations. For the meeting later today: in using the current wiki, do
>> you perceive the need for more features (first list of items)?
>>
>> ----
>> Requirements:
>> - anyone can edit
>> - to prevent hacks, with a password
>> - least effort in migration. It currently uses PMWiki, so a ?copy? would
>> be fastest (note: PMWiki does not offer user management, i.e., anon edits
>> only, and is not a semantic wiki).
>> - adding pictures or files within the same wiki-world would be useful
>> - there has been mention of the possibility of adding comments, alike a
>> forum capability. PMWiki does not offer this features
>> - some branding with the url, i.e., not in a ?corner? of the Web
>> - display IAOA logo (or our own)
>> - A bibliography feature?
>> - perhaps with user names rather than anonymous as it is now?
>> - any other requirements or wishes?
>>
>> Regarding alternatives:
>>
>> If other wiki software, in case the other features are now deemed needed
>> and those wikis have them:
>> - downside is that then need to manually recreate  contents (copy-paste,
>> edit for syntax).
>>
>> If Semantic wiki: in theory good, but note
>> - who has experience in practice to actually get the semantics in?
>> - what sort of queries/dynamic content would be ?interesting? for a
>> visitor? If hardly any, than what?s the point? If so: please provide
>> examples of possible good use of semantic wiki features.
>> - pro: walking the walk?
>>
>> If blogging software, such as migrating to wordpress:
>> - more cumbersome to edit than a wiki
>> - more cumbersome to create user logins, so increases the hurdle for
>> people to contribute
>> - WP at least isn?t good for managing (very) many pages (but we?ll have a
>> lot if each term gets its own page)
>> - need to manually recreate  contents (copy-paste, edit for syntax and
>> layout)
>> - pro: may be easier to integrate with the iaoa website?
>> ----
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maria
>>
>>
>
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