From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Wed Sep 7 19:07:51 2016 From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:07:51 +0200 Subject: [iaoa-education] Transcript IAOA Education Committee n.11 - Wed 10 Aug 2016: Minutes Message-ID: Dear all, please find below an unedited copy of the session transcript of the Education Committee meeting n.11, held on Aug 10, 2016. Best regards, Frank = 11th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Aug 10, 2016 = == call details (summary) == * Date: Wed 2016.08.10 * Start Time: 07:00 PDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST 11:00 BRT / 16:00 SAST (cf. [A] for local times) * Duration: ~1.0 Hours * Dial-in via Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd * in-session chat: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20160810 * Education Committee Wiki http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/ [A] local meeting date and time(s) http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160810T1400&ah=1&am=00 -- unedited chat transcript -- [15:52] MariaKeet: = 11th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Aug 10, 2016 = [15:52] MariaKeet: == agenda == 0. adoption of agenda 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee? 2. ontology textbook a. interested parties & feedback b. next steps c. work resources 1: github space set up? [MK] 2: need for separate mailing list? 3. Applied Ontology Terminology a. feedback in thread @ [ontolog-forum] b. new definitions added in wiki [3]? c. relation with Wikipedia pages 4. future EduTC projects a. ontology competition: suspend? when to reconsider? 5. minor administrative tasks a. ISAO website zip file requested from Oliver Kutz? [MK] b. link to EduTC wiki added to IAOA website? [FL] 6. AOB 7. next meeting(s) a. Wed, Sep 7, 2016 b. Wed, Oct 5 vs. Oct 12, 2016 == long-term Agenda == A. Ontology Competition [2016] * [action] [MK] describe ideas on the competition ** noted on Mar 02, 2016, originally for ISAO by May 2016 ** no deadline set wrt an independent competition = pre-meeting material = == 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee? == Following up on ISAO 2016 [1], the EduTC is asked to function as ISAO Steering Committee, in general. < excerpt of [2] > In anticipation of the next Edu TC meeting on August 10, please provide input already on: Should the Edu TC serve as a sort of standing "steering committee" for ISAO? It is/was the intention of the EC that the whole EduC takes care of initiating the ISAO process. This would involve finding a general chair, a PC chair, and a local chair. It also would include decisions on: - co-location of ISAO with other events, or possible decoupling from other events and such, and - whether the ISAO should be a yearly event or once in 2 years. [1] ISAO 2016 website http://isao2016.inf.unibz.it/ [2] email MKeet of Jul 28, 2016 https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-July/000054.html == 2. ontology textbook: interested parties & feedback == * interested parties according to email [1] and those following up [2] [status: Aug 03, 2016 13:00 UTC] MA Mara Abel (+ PhD students) JB Julita Bermejo-Alonso MK Maria Keet FL Frank Loebe SL Sandra Lovrencic AW Andrea Westerinen ZW Zena Wood comment [3 [reformatted]] by MA, Jul 28: * it would be more efficient if you, or the small group, could pass defined tasks to be done. * We can be useful in manual work than requires time to be done, and react quickly, since I have a good team of students deeply involved with formal ontology. comment by FL, Aug 03 [original]: * clarify scope & target audience of the textbook * in case of a teaching focus, start collecting ** teaching and learning goals ** topics * formal representation and languages: which level/aspiration in this respect? [1] https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-July/000055.html [2] https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-July/date.html [3] https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-July/000059.html == 3a. Applied Ontology Terminology: feedback in thread @ [ontolog-forum] == * Jul 28, 2016: SL starts a thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" [1] at [ontolog-forum], hinting on the former [2] and the current [3] term lists * proposals for further procedure by John Sowa (Jul 31) [4] [summarized & rearranged, 6.+7. attributed to Christiane Fellbaum] 1. general editor for general project management 2. associate editors for handling term subsets 3. open set of contributors submitting citations and information to associate editors 4. build on earlier editions/work 5. enable term suggestions by contributors 6. accommodate everyone's definitions of a term 7. collect and cluster real example sentences (as term contexts) * hint on COSMO ontology [5] by Patrick Cassidy (Jul 2 [6] * update suggestion for diagram on [2] by Gary Berg-Cross (Jul 31) [7], with a comment on the diagram's history by Todd Schneider (Jul 31) * technical comment on use of the archived Ontolog wiki by Peter Yim (Jul 29) [8] * technical comment on use of the current Ontolog wiki for terminology gathering by John Sowa (Jul 29) [9] ** promoting Ontolog wiki as being open and free of charge, unrelated to IAOA membership fees [1] thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" @ [ontolog-forum] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo [2] term list produced by IAOA Ontology Terminology Subcommittee (2012-2013) http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/IaoaOntologyTerminology.html [3] current term list in IAOA EduTC Wiki http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TermList [4] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/_jUEp_BVBgAJ [5] COSMO ontology http://micra.com/COSMO/ [6] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/n67OnNhOBgAJ [7] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/qUWePkQ7BwAJ [8] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/s-vHwSmCBgAJ [9] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/CWAU9_qTBgAJ [16:07] FrankLoebe: @ Andrea: Are you trying to join the call on Skype? [16:07] AndreaWesterinen: Yes [16:08] FrankLoebe: We'll hang up again and Maria will restart the call -hpefully you can join then. [16:09] ToddSchneider: Now I can't join. [16:09] AndreaWesterinen: I am having trouble getting this working with my mac. [16:09] ZenaWood: Todd can you start the call please? [16:09] FrankLoebe: Todd or andrea, can you start the call, please? [16:11] ZenaWood: Agenda adopted [16:11] ZenaWood: 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee? [16:12] ZenaWood: EC would like the ISAO to be lead by ISAO (finding chairs and venue etc) [16:13] ZenaWood: Would nee dot figure out how it would work [16:13] FrankLoebe: ZW: we'd need to figure out a procedure within the EduTC, e.g., who takes the lead on that [16:14] ZenaWood: FL: It would be worth a try with the responsibility being with the EdCo [16:14] ZenaWood: TS: Who organised this years? [16:14] ZenaWood: FL: 2016 OK local chair, MK and ZW PCs. Previously organised by Giancarlo [16:15] ZenaWood: MK: It was quite ad hoc this year [16:15] ZenaWood: FL: EC would like to distribute education event to other people [16:15] AndreaWesterinen: I am a bit worried that this is a big effort and we will not have bandwidth for other activities as well. [16:16] ZenaWood: TS: We should at least be the lead - thematic scope is there [16:17] ZenaWood: MK: ISAO took a lot of time from the EdCo this year [16:17] ZenaWood: FL: Trying to find a local chair should be easier - should be co-located with the FOIS conference [16:18] ZenaWood: FL: Will need coordination with EC and FOIS chair [16:18] ZenaWood: ZW: Rols need to be clearly defined [16:18] ZenaWood: MK: If it is just finding people then that is OK but if it is organisation we need more people to take up this activity each year [16:19] ZenaWood: FL: Key question is finding people. [16:20] ZenaWood: TS: What are the repsonsibilities before voting? [16:20] ZenaWood: MK: This information is in the email (and excerpt in agenda) [16:20] MariaKeet: role to be: This would involve finding a general chair, a PC chair, and a local chair. It also would include decisions on: - co-location of ISAO with other events, or possible decoupling from other events and such, and - whether the ISAO should be a yearly event or once in 2 years. [16:20] ZenaWood: FL: Finding general chairs, PC chairs, local chairs should be coordinated with FOIS [16:21] ZenaWood: FL: Whether ISAO is every year or every other year is not going to happen too often [16:21] ZenaWood: AW: Does this include setting agendas? [16:21] ZenaWood: FL: This would be the role of the PCs [16:22] ZenaWood: MK: This year was a little different to this [16:22] ZenaWood: MK: Task is to find a general chair and PC chair [16:22] ZenaWood: FL: We should provide ideas of suitable topics or at some point the committee looks at the proposal from PCs. [16:23] ZenaWood: AW: We need to be clear about responsibilities [16:23] ZenaWood: FL: We will need to find someone, which could be difficult [16:24] AndreaWesterinen: If we can't find someone to be the PC chair, does the event not happen? [16:24] ZenaWood: FL: There is no implicit assumption that we would need to do it ourselves. We would have to query the EC [16:25] ZenaWood: TS: That condition needs to be explicit [16:25] ZenaWood: AW: Agree that this is the right committee to agree and steer but not fall to us if no one is found [16:26] ZenaWood: FL: EduC agrees to act as initiator of ISAO but will not do it if local and PC chairs are not found [16:26] ZenaWood: Decision made! [16:26] ZenaWood: Conditional decision made [16:26] ZenaWood: This wil be passed to the EC [16:27] ZenaWood: FL: We have FOIS 2018 call, which goes out in the next few days. They are also offered to host ISAO 2018. We should try to avoid looking for people to too late. [16:27] ZenaWood: FL: After we know who the FOIS proposal comes from we should reconsider the issue (in October) [16:27] ZenaWood: 2. ontology textbook a. interested parties & feedback b. next steps c. work resources 1: github space set up? [MK] 2: need for separate mailing list? [16:29] ZenaWood: TS: In connection with the suggestion from Nicola. If there is going to be a textbook, should we combine with wikipedia to maintain information? [16:29] ZenaWood: MK: Currently the information on Wikipedia is awful [16:29] AndreaWesterinen: Yes, that was why it might be important for us to curate it. [16:29] ZenaWood: MK: There are various modes on how you could order an ontology textbook (e-book, soft copy, webpage ...) [16:30] ZenaWood: TS: WIkipedia has lots of infrastructure that comes with it [16:30] ZenaWood: TS: Textbook is often a one-off deal and follow up with new editions. Material will be more dynamic so Wikipedia might be the way to go [16:31] ZenaWood: FL: There is a little gap. The textbook would have flow of chapters where individual Wikipedia articles would be more self-contained with links to other pages [16:31] AndreaWesterinen: We could also use the textbook to update wikipedia. [16:31] ZenaWood: MK: A textbook would include questions and answers [16:32] ZenaWood: MK: It would depend how the textbook is published and the various copyright regulations [16:32] ZenaWood: TS: Wikipedia is the first place a lot of people go first [16:33] ZenaWood: TS: Could the updating of Wikipedia be couple with the textbook? [16:33] ZenaWood: FL: Going in parallel can be efficient but not necessarily always the case [16:34] ZenaWood: FL: Both would require a lot of time [16:34] ZenaWood: TS: Text book more work than wikipedia [16:34] MariaKeet: https://keet.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/wikipedia-open-access-not-quite-a-revolution-not-yet-at-least/ [16:35] ZenaWood: ZW: Are they not two different audiences (wikipedia and textbook)? [16:35] Sandra morphed into SandraLovrencic [16:35] AndreaWesterinen: Stack Overflow is what most developers depend on. And, it is curated/upvoted and downvoted/... [16:35] ZenaWood: FL: The way we define terms could be different for more general reader and students who may wish to have more detail [16:36] ZenaWood: TS: Stack Overflow focus more on coding instead of concepts [16:36] ZenaWood: MK: Before we delve into how we would do the textbook - who are the interested parties and what would be the next step? How do we divide the resources? Do we need a separate group? [16:37] ZenaWood: ZW: Think we need a separate meeting to focus on textbook instead of using the monthly call [16:38] ZenaWood: AW would like to be involved in textbook and recommend subgroup [16:38] ZenaWood: MK: We move the conversation to the subgroup [16:41] ZenaWood: MK: For the textbook we will have a subgroup and report back at this monthly meeting on progress [16:41] ZenaWood: 3. Applied Ontology Terminology a. feedback in thread @ [ontolog-forum] b. new definitions added in wiki [3]? c. relation with Wikipedia pages [16:41] ZenaWood: SL: Everything collected from Ontology forum? [16:42] ZenaWood: TS: Recent material or items from emails? [16:42] ZenaWood: SL: Everything from the forum [16:43] ZenaWood: SL: Received a message from Barry who has a lot of terms but we need to ask MIT press permission [16:44] ZenaWood: SL: Barry has to ask for the permission [16:44] ZenaWood: FL: How does the terms relate to his book? [16:44] ZenaWood: SL: Need to confirm [16:45] ZenaWood: TS: Some of the terms we already have from the book. [16:46] ZenaWood: SL: So ask for permission for the additional ones that we want [16:46] ZenaWood: TS: We would have to filter [16:47] ZenaWood: TS: Not everyone will agree on terms so need to gather the commonly agreed definitions [16:47] ZenaWood: SL: Will speak to Barry to say that we would like to use the terms and ask permission [16:48] ZenaWood: AW: We want to collect the definitions and review them and curate them ourselve [16:48] ZenaWood: TS: Ginacarlo and Nicola will need to be included [16:48] ZenaWood: TS: IAOA have a page of these terms too? [16:49] FrankLoebe: http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/ [16:49] ZenaWood: TS: Thinks this might be the EDuC page [16:50] ZenaWood: TS: AN email has been sent to Giancarlo and Nicole for definitions from their paper but we are waiting for a repsonse [16:52] ZenaWood: TS: Thought he had subscribed but not receiving emails. FL will check [16:52] ToddSchneider: tjschneider at covad.net [16:53] FrankLoebe: Tha call is gone, right? [16:54] ZenaWood: 3. Applied Ontology Terminology a. feedback in thread @ [ontolog-forum] b. new definitions added in wiki [3]? c. relation with Wikipedia pages [16:55] ZenaWood: AW: It would be good as part of EduC to update Wiki. Could focus on the pages whilst building the textbook [16:55] ZenaWood: MK: Will need to harmonise for the textbook [16:56] ZenaWood: AW: The wikipedia page is a short discussion of concept with textbook having more depth [16:56] ZenaWood: AW: Where there is clarity on terms we could curate those wikipedia pages [16:57] ZenaWood: FL: The state of wikipedia pages was raised in FOIS assembly but a general issue of how much time we have to spend on all of these projects [16:57] ZenaWood: MK: Wikipedia cleaning should not be the responsibility of EDuC. A call should be sent out to the commmunity [16:58] ZenaWood: MK: Updating wikipedia could be a full time job [16:58] AndreaWesterinen: Is this something that the educ committee monitors and spearheads? [16:59] ZenaWood: FL: Good idea to go for the textbook and then see if there is anything that can be used to revise a set of Wikipedia pages. [16:59] ZenaWood: MK: Students are populating a Wiki from her lectures [16:59] ZenaWood: AW: Could be that we do not own it but highlight where work needs to be done [17:00] ZenaWood: MK: Who is responsible for PR of the organisation? [17:00] ZenaWood: MK: This could be a PR exercise [17:00] ZenaWood: FL: Need to revise PR committee [17:01] AndreaWesterinen: Certainly the wikipedia work is secondary, but it would be very visible. [17:03] ZenaWood: FL: Need to identify how to motivate people to update certain Wiki pages. [17:03] ZenaWood: AW: Our focus should be on definitions and curating the definitions [17:04] ZenaWood: ZW: Will be determined in subgroup [17:04] ZenaWood: 4. future EduTC projects a. ontology competition: suspend? when to reconsider? [17:05] ZenaWood: FL: When should this go on agenda [17:05] ZenaWood: FL: Suspend until November meeting [17:06] ZenaWood: 5. minor administrative tasks a. ISAO website zip file requested from Oliver Kutz? [MK] b. link to EduTC wiki added to IAOA website? [FL] [17:06] ZenaWood: MK: Let her know if anyone wants the slides from the ISAO quiz [17:06] ZenaWood: AW, SL and FL would like them [17:07] ZenaWood: MK: Will send OK link [17:07] ZenaWood: FL: Link has been added to IAOA (5b) [17:08] ZenaWood: AOB? [17:08] ZenaWood: No [17:08] ZenaWood: 7. next meeting(s) a. Wed, Sep 7, 2016 b. Wed, Oct 5 vs. Oct 12, 2016 [17:08] ZenaWood: Sept 7 would not have Maria or Zena [17:09] ZenaWood: Sept. 14th would work for SL, FL, MK and AW [17:09] ZenaWood: Next meeting will be Sept 14th with announcement a week before (7th) [17:09] ZenaWood: Zena sends aplogies for next meeting [17:09] ZenaWood: Meeting closed [17:09] ZenaWood: Present: Frank, Maria, Andrea, Todd, Sandra and Zena From frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Wed Sep 7 19:14:40 2016 From: frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Frank Loebe) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:14:40 +0200 Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting on Wed 2016.09.14: announcement Message-ID: <6b243b3e-93e5-382a-0686-95d98fdb54b3@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Dear Education Committee members, our next call will take place irregularly on the 2nd Wednesday of this month, i.e., on Wednesday next week at the usual time of the day: --> Meeting n.12 Wed, Sep 14, 2016 07:00 PDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST 11:00 BRT / 16:00 SAST (cf. [A]) Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20160914 An agenda proposal is provided below, followed by some pre-meeting material. If you have any comments or questions regarding the agenda or the meeting in general, please use the mailing list or contact Maria directly (Zena is currently not available). Best regards, Frank = 12th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Sep 14, 2016 = == call details (summary) == * Date: Wed 2016.09.14 * Start Time: 07:00 PDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST 11:00 BRT / 16:00 SAST (cf. [A] for local times) * Duration: ~1.0 Hours * Dial-in via Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd * in-session chat: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20160914 * Education Committee Wiki http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/ [A] local meeting date and time(s) http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160914T1400&ah=1&am=00 == participants == expecting: AH Amanda Hicks MK Maria Keet FL Frank Loebe SL Sandra Lovrencic TS Todd Schneider AW Andrea Westerinen regrets: ZW Zena Wood long-term unavailability: * ZW unavailable between Sep 01-25, 2016 * FL likely unavailable on Oct 5, 2016 == agenda == 0. adoption of agenda 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee confirmed 2. Applied Ontology Terminology a. feedback on using terms from [1]? [SL] ? b. feedback by G.Guizzardi & N.Guarino? [TS] c. new definitions added in wiki [2]? ? d. procedure as proposed by J.F.Sowa -> editors? 3. minor administrative tasks a. ISAO website zip file requested from Oliver Kutz? [MK] 4. ontology textbook effort a. no special meeting happened yet ? b. continue discussion on scope 5. AOB 6. next meeting(s) a. Wed, Oct 5 vs. Oct 12, 2016 b. Wed, Nov 2, 2016 [1] https://mitpress.mit.edu/building-ontologies R. Arp, B. Smith, A.D. Spear Building Ontologies with Basic Formal Ontology MIT Press, 2015 [2] http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TermList == long-term Agenda == A. Ontology Competition [2016] * [suspended, in n.11, 2016.08.10] until Nov.2016 meeting * [action] [MK] describe ideas on the competition ** noted on Mar 02, 2016, originally for ISAO by May 2016 ** no deadline set wrt an independent competition B. ISAO 2018 * [waits] for determined FOIS 2018 location, reconsider in Oct or Nov 2016 = pre-meeting material = == 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee confirmed == * IAOA EC accepts the understanding of how EduTC will steer ISAO * communicated agreement: < partial copy of EC meeting n.153, Aug 29, pre-meeting material > [based on Education Committee meeting of Aug 10, 2016] The EduC accepts the task of steering ISAO schools, by which the following is understood: * the main task is to try to initiate ISAO schools regularly, which means to: ** try finding a general chair, PC chair(s), possibly local chair(s) ** this will be coordinated with FOIS hosting proposals, keeping in mind an intended direct link or nearby location ** general and PC chairs are responsible for identifying facilitators, scheduling the program, etc., but the EduC will monitor their activities and might give advice and (limited) support * if reasonable attempts to fill those positions fail, this will be communicated to the EC, but there is _no obligation_ to fill any of the open positions by EduC members * other steering decisions, e.g. on the frequency of ISAO events, can also be made by the EduC and will be coordinated with the EC == 2. Applied Ontology Terminology == === 2d. procedure as proposed by J.F.Sowa -> editors? === * Jul 28, 2016: SL starts a thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" [1] at [ontolog-forum], hinting on the former [2] and the current [3] term lists * proposals for further procedure by John Sowa (Jul 31) [4] [summarized & rearranged, 6.+7. attributed to Christiane Fellbaum] 1. general editor for general project management 2. associate editors for handling term subsets 3. open set of contributors submitting citations and information to associate editors 4. build on earlier editions/work 5. enable term suggestions by contributors 6. accommodate everyone's definitions of a term 7. collect and cluster real example sentences (as term contexts) [1] thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" @ [ontolog-forum] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo [2] term list produced by IAOA Ontology Terminology Subcommittee (2012-2013) http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/IaoaOntologyTerminology.html [3] current term list in IAOA EduTC Wiki http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TermList [4] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/_jUEp_BVBgAJ == 4b. ontology textbook effort: continue discussion on scope == comment by FL, Aug 03 [1]: * clarify scope & target audience of the textbook * in case of a teaching focus, start collecting ** teaching and learning goals ** topics * formal representation and languages: which level/aspiration in this respect? [1] https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-August/000063.html (see pre-meeting material of item 2.) From arwesterinen at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 15:25:06 2016 From: arwesterinen at gmail.com (Andrea Westerinen) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:25:06 -0400 Subject: [iaoa-education] IAOA Education Committee Meeting on Wed 2016.09.14: announcement In-Reply-To: <6b243b3e-93e5-382a-0686-95d98fdb54b3@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> References: <6b243b3e-93e5-382a-0686-95d98fdb54b3@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Message-ID: My apologies, but I have to attend a meeting this morning and will not be available. Andrea Westerinen T: 425.891.8407 arwesterinen at gmail.com or andreaw at ninepts.com organizingknowledge.blogspot.com On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Frank Loebe < frank.loebe at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > Dear Education Committee members, > > our next call will take place irregularly on the 2nd Wednesday of this > month, i.e., on Wednesday next week at the usual time of the day: > > --> Meeting n.12 Wed, Sep 14, 2016 > 07:00 PDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST > 11:00 BRT / 16:00 SAST (cf. [A]) > > Skype: https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd > Chat : http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20160914 > > > An agenda proposal is provided below, followed by some pre-meeting > material. If you have any comments or questions regarding the agenda or the > meeting in general, please use the mailing list or contact Maria directly > (Zena is currently not available). > > Best regards, > Frank > > > = 12th Meeting of the IAOA Techn. Comm. on Education - Sep 14, 2016 = > > == call details (summary) == > > * Date: Wed 2016.09.14 > * Start Time: 07:00 PDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST > 11:00 BRT / 16:00 SAST (cf. [A] for local times) > > * Duration: ~1.0 Hours > > * Dial-in via Skype: > https://join.skype.com/a36OQeLjaIzd > > * in-session chat: > http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_edu_20160914 > > * Education Committee Wiki > http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/ > > [A] local meeting date and time(s) > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=201 > 60914T1400&ah=1&am=00 > > > == participants == > > expecting: > AH Amanda Hicks > MK Maria Keet > FL Frank Loebe > SL Sandra Lovrencic > TS Todd Schneider > AW Andrea Westerinen > > regrets: > ZW Zena Wood > > long-term unavailability: > * ZW unavailable between Sep 01-25, 2016 > * FL likely unavailable on Oct 5, 2016 > > > == agenda == > > 0. adoption of agenda > > 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee confirmed > > 2. Applied Ontology Terminology > a. feedback on using terms from [1]? [SL] > ? b. feedback by G.Guizzardi & N.Guarino? [TS] > c. new definitions added in wiki [2]? > ? d. procedure as proposed by J.F.Sowa -> editors? > > 3. minor administrative tasks > a. ISAO website zip file requested from Oliver Kutz? [MK] > > 4. ontology textbook effort > a. no special meeting happened yet > ? b. continue discussion on scope > > 5. AOB > > 6. next meeting(s) > a. Wed, Oct 5 vs. Oct 12, 2016 > b. Wed, Nov 2, 2016 > > > [1] https://mitpress.mit.edu/building-ontologies > R. Arp, B. Smith, A.D. Spear > Building Ontologies with Basic Formal Ontology > MIT Press, 2015 > > [2] http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TermList > > > == long-term Agenda == > > A. Ontology Competition [2016] > * [suspended, in n.11, 2016.08.10] until Nov.2016 meeting > * [action] [MK] describe ideas on the competition > ** noted on Mar 02, 2016, originally for ISAO by May 2016 > ** no deadline set wrt an independent competition > > B. ISAO 2018 > * [waits] for determined FOIS 2018 location, > reconsider in Oct or Nov 2016 > > > = pre-meeting material = > > == 1. EduTC to act as ISAO Steering Committee confirmed == > > * IAOA EC accepts the understanding of how EduTC will steer ISAO > > * communicated agreement: > < partial copy of EC meeting n.153, Aug 29, pre-meeting material > > > [based on Education Committee meeting of Aug 10, 2016] > > The EduC accepts the task of steering ISAO schools, by which the > following is understood: > > * the main task is to try to initiate ISAO schools regularly, > which means to: > ** try finding a general chair, PC chair(s), possibly local chair(s) > ** this will be coordinated with FOIS hosting proposals, keeping in > mind an intended direct link or nearby location > ** general and PC chairs are responsible for identifying facilitators, > scheduling the program, etc., but the EduC will monitor their > activities and might give advice and (limited) support > > * if reasonable attempts to fill those positions fail, this will be > communicated to the EC, but there is _no obligation_ to fill any > of the open positions by EduC members > > * other steering decisions, e.g. on the frequency of ISAO events, can > also be made by the EduC and will be coordinated with the EC > > > > > == 2. Applied Ontology Terminology == > > === 2d. procedure as proposed by J.F.Sowa -> editors? === > > * Jul 28, 2016: SL starts a thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" [1] at > [ontolog-forum], hinting on the former [2] and the current [3] term lists > > * proposals for further procedure by John Sowa (Jul 31) [4] > [summarized & rearranged, 6.+7. attributed to Christiane Fellbaum] > 1. general editor for general project management > 2. associate editors for handling term subsets > 3. open set of contributors submitting citations and information to > associate editors > 4. build on earlier editions/work > 5. enable term suggestions by contributors > 6. accommodate everyone's definitions of a term > 7. collect and cluster real example sentences (as term contexts) > > > [1] thread "Applied Ontology Terminology" @ [ontolog-forum] > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo > > [2] term list produced by IAOA Ontology Terminology Subcommittee > (2012-2013) > http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/IaoaOntologyTerminology.html > > [3] current term list in IAOA EduTC Wiki > http://iaoaedu.cs.uct.ac.za/pmwiki.php?n=IAOAEdu.TermList > > [4] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/jqyp91GRIuo/_jUEp_BVBgAJ > > > == 4b. ontology textbook effort: continue discussion on scope == > > comment by FL, Aug 03 [1]: > * clarify scope & target audience of the textbook > * in case of a teaching focus, start collecting > ** teaching and learning goals > ** topics > * formal representation and languages: which level/aspiration in this > respect? > > > [1] https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2016-Augu > st/000063.html > (see pre-meeting material of item 2.) > > _________________________________________________________________ > To Post: mailto:iaoa-education at ovgu.de > Msg Archives: https://listserv.ovgu.de/pipermail/iaoa-education/ > List Info: https://listserv.ovgu.de/mailman/listinfo/iaoa-education/ > Comm. 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