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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>a gentle reminder for those of you who are interested but haven't
yet filled the Doodle <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb">https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb</a></p>
<p>Please fill the Doodle today, the date will be fixed by tomorrow.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Laure<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<td>Fixing the next meeting of the IAOA Education TC --
extended to all interested in the new IAOA webinars series</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date : </th>
<td>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:22:26 +0100</td>
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<td>Laure Vieu <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vieu@irit.fr"><vieu@irit.fr></a></td>
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<td>IAOA Education Committee <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:iaoa-education@ovgu.de"><iaoa-education@ovgu.de></a>,
Cassia TROJAHN <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cassia.Trojahn@irit.fr"><Cassia.Trojahn@irit.fr></a>, Daniele
Porello <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:daniele.porello@loa.istc.cnr.it"><daniele.porello@loa.istc.cnr.it></a>, IAOA
Executive Council <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:iaoa-council@ovgu.de"><iaoa-council@ovgu.de></a></td>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
with a big delay (sorry!), here is the link to the Doodle to fix the
next meeting:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb">https://doodle.com/poll/umwnc6ufh2nhdveb</a><br>
<br>
please fill it by this friday March 19 so as to fix the best slot
before it fills up with other duties.<br>
<br>
meanwhile, the EduTC common workspace (ticketing system + internal
wiki) has been set up:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.iaoa.org:777/edutc">https://trac.iaoa.org:777/edutc</a><br>
right now it is completely empty, but soon a page to gather lecturer
suggestions and a page to investigate technical solutions will be
set-up<br>
the idea is that this is an internal tool, and not a substitute to
the existing public wiki.<br>
<br>
there is a system to create an account. please have a try. we do not
know yet whether it works, so please report any issue.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Laure<br>
<br>
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Le 03/03/2021 à 14:59, Frank Loebe a écrit :<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
please find below the unedited chat transcript of the Education
Committee meeting n.44, held today.<br>
<br>
If you have any comments or change requests, please let me know.<br>
<br>
A follow-up meeting is planned for the week starting on Mar 22,
2021. A Doodle poll for determining the exact time slot shall follow
soon.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
<br>
-- unedited chat transcript --<br>
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[10:56] FrankLoebe: .<br>
= IAOA Education Technical Committee meeting n.44 on Mar 03, 2021 =<br>
<br>
----------------> WELCOME (BACK) <----------------<br>
<br>
--> Meeting n.44 Wed, Mar 03, 2021<br>
05:00 EST / 10:00 UTC / 11:00 CET / 12:00 SAST [1]<br>
<br>
Skype: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY">https://join.skype.com/eKAVpRwdkfFY</a><br>
Chat : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ">http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/iaoa_educ</a><br>
<br>
[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210303T1000&ah=1&am=30">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210303T1000&ah=1&am=30</a><br>
selected based on [2]<br>
<br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://doodle.com/poll/mknafezeu6hvkzbp">https://doodle.com/poll/mknafezeu6hvkzbp</a><br>
<br>
<br>
== participants ==<br>
<br>
expecting:<br>
TH Torsten Hahmann [likely late]<br>
LJ Ludger Jansen<br>
MK Maria Keet<br>
OK Oliver Kutz<br>
FL Frank Loebe<br>
SL Sandra Lovrencic<br>
DP Daniele Porello<br>
RR Robert Rovetto<br>
ES Emilio Sanfilippo<br>
CT Cassia Trojahn<br>
LV Laure Vieu<br>
<br>
regrets:<br>
< none ><br>
<br>
<br>
== agenda ==<br>
<br>
0. adoption of agenda<br>
<br>
1. webinar series on applied ontology<br>
a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)<br>
b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)<br>
c. first program (what who when)<br>
d. who handles the whole process<br>
<br>
2. status and revival of the Education Committee<br>
<br>
3. next meeting(s) and AOB<br>
<br>
<br>
== pre-meeting material ==<br>
<br>
== 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==<br>
<br>
[1] initiating message<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2021-February/000289.html">https://listserv.ovgu.de//pipermail/iaoa-education/2021-February/000289.html</a>
<br>
<br>
< excerpt from [1] ><br>
[...] to invite you to contribute to develop a program of short
webinars (on-line video lectures) on fundamentals of Ontology and
its Applications.<br>
<br>
IAOA's main educational activity, the ISAO summer school, was
cancelled in 2020 with hopes to postpone it to September 2021. But
pandemic uncertainties are still high and since we deemed that a
proper summer school cannot be held on-line, ISAO 2021 is now
cancelled. Of course, ISAO summer schools shall resume when the
situation will improve.<br>
<br>
The idea then emerged in the IAOA EC to create a program of short
on-line lectures, possibly asking some of the lecturers who were on
the ISAO 2020 program to contribute, as well as extending to the
wealth of great lecturers present in our community. The webinar
series could adopt a regular frequency, and extend over the years,
possibly becoming a main instrument of the IAOA Education Technical
Committee.<br>
<br>
Educational activities certainly are in high demand from IAOA
members. The EduTC needs to be revived, and the webinar series
project could be the occasion to gather energies and make it active
again.<br>
</ excerpt ><br>
<br>
[10:58] anonymous morphed into MariaKeet<br>
<br>
[11:07] FrankLoebe: < session started at 11:05 CET ><br>
<br>
[11:08] FrankLoebe: .<br>
< FL gives brief introduction on the background of the meeting
><br>
[agreement] agenda adopted<br>
<br>
[11:08] FrankLoebe: .<br>
== 1. webinar series on applied ontology ==<br>
a. format (type of contents, length, frequency, live or not...)<br>
b. technical aspects (which host, how to record...)<br>
c. first program (what who when)<br>
d. who handles the whole process<br>
<br>
[11:09] FrankLoebe: .<br>
< LV summarizing the background of the webinar series idea, cf.
pre-meeting material on item 1. ><br>
<br>
[11:10] FrankLoebe: LV: we'd not simply convert the summer school
format into an online variant, but rather to consider a new online
format<br>
<br>
[11:11] FrankLoebe: LV: first ideas: short (ca. 20 min)
webinars/presentations; e.g.: what's a perdurant? what's a top-level
ontology? ... having many of those<br>
<br>
[11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: who is this targeting? Anyone out there?
post-grads, PhDs?<br>
<br>
[11:12] FrankLoebe: MK: this will affect topics<br>
<br>
[11:13] FrankLoebe: LV: hasn't been fixed, but similar to the summer
schools seems plausible<br>
<br>
[11:14] FrankLoebe: MK: I get emails from industry people asking for
explanations on my textbook<br>
<br>
[11:16] FrankLoebe: FL: perhaps we don't have to fix this for all
webinars in the same way; could have some for postgrad level, some
for industry/business<br>
<br>
[11:19] FrankLoebe: LV: generally, we plan to continue this/provide
webinars over years, not just replacing ISAO in 2021<br>
<br>
[11:20] FrankLoebe: FL: yes, but we should also plan something
concrete for this year<br>
<br>
[11:24] FrankLoebe: ES: I welcome the idea in general; on the
format, the question is what to do, e.g., several online-conferences
have expected that people looked at videos beforehand, then having
live discussion sessions<br>
<br>
[11:30] FrankLoebe: CT: +1, have also seen that in conferences;
although live talks are also nice<br>
<br>
[11:30] FrankLoebe: < discussion about format options, esp.
pre-recording vs. live session ><br>
<br>
[11:31] FrankLoebe: options discussed: live-sessions; pre-recording
+ later live session, possibly with panel-discussion<br>
<br>
[11:31] anonymous1 morphed into LudgerJansen<br>
<br>
[11:32] FrankLoebe: MK: there are also a number of videos out there,
from online classes held already<br>
<br>
[11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: [...]<br>
<br>
LJ: what's the aim? unrelated topics or do we have a focus topic?<br>
<br>
[11:34] FrankLoebe: LV: would not want to be too constraining?<br>
<br>
[11:35] FrankLoebe: LJ: the decision will influence our approach<br>
<br>
[11:35] FrankLoebe: LV: one idea was to start with the intended
lecturers of ISAO 2020 (asking them)<br>
<br>
[11:37] FrankLoebe: LV: those could give a set of small videos that
are related ... but that's just one idea<br>
<br>
[11:39] FrankLoebe: MK: for the African Summer school we had an open
call for basic and advanced topics, creating a program from what we
received as talk suggestions<br>
<br>
[11:40] FrankLoebe: FL: sounds like a good idea to me, having
self-motivated presenters; we could fill in gaps (in topic coverage)
later<br>
<br>
[11:40] MariaKeet: ^ (was this one: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sigir.org/afirm2020/">http://sigir.org/afirm2020/</a>
[unrelated topics though])<br>
<br>
[11:48] FrankLoebe: LV: perhaps we ask known presenters in a first
round (N.Guarino, A.Varzi, K.Fine, etc.), then continue with an open
call<br>
<br>
[11:50] FrankLoebe: < discussion on who to ask vs. open call;
format and possible durations ><br>
<br>
[11:50] FrankLoebe: MK: I think we shouldn't have only presenters of
one group of age; want to demonstrate a lively & vibrant
community<br>
<br>
[11:51] FrankLoebe: LV: I agree, we should have a mixed approach<br>
<br>
[11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: +1 for balance between the presenters<br>
<br>
[11:51] FrankLoebe: MK: on duration: students drop out after 10-12
min, even 20-25 is too long; 45 min is far too long<br>
<br>
[11:52] FrankLoebe: MK: ^this is based on studies; more "action" on
the slides helps a bit (flying, moving things)<br>
<br>
[11:55] FrankLoebe: < discussion about readiness of presenters to
stick to new, short formats ><br>
<br>
[11:56] FrankLoebe: FL: approaches need not exclude each other,
majority could be shorts, plus some longer ones<br>
<br>
[11:56] FrankLoebe: LJ: it's a challenge to re-format ways to
explain topics in bits of 10 min ... will be interesting to see what
is produced<br>
<br>
[11:57] MariaKeet1: I have to leave in a few minutes<br>
<br>
[11:59] FrankLoebe: MK: I'd be interested in structuring and
planning of the series; giving input on how to restructure talks
etc.<br>
<br>
[12:03] FrankLoebe: LV: we should start asap, once the technical
setup is clarified<br>
<br>
[12:04] FrankLoebe: MK: still need to clarify whether course-like or
rather self-standing video that can be cherry-picked<br>
<br>
[12:05] FrankLoebe: LV: certainly self-standing is preferred<br>
<br>
[12:06] FrankLoebe: FL, DP: +1<br>
<br>
[12:09] MariaKeet1: I really have to go now, sorry. I'll see follow
via email?<br>
<br>
[12:09] MariaKeet1: bye<br>
<br>
[12:13] FrankLoebe: < general expressions of interest and
occasional contributions; no one in the meeting can take the full
lead ><br>
<br>
[12:22] FrankLoebe: < discussion on how to proceed ><br>
<br>
[12:24] FrankLoebe: [agreement] next meeting TBD via Doodle in week
of Mar 22, with time slots that allow for American participation,
too<br>
<br>
[12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] establish a branch in IAOA's
internal wiki for joint work during the meetings<br>
<br>
[12:25] FrankLoebe: [action] [FL] setup the Doodle for the next
meeting<br>
<br>
[12:26] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL<br>
<br>
[12:27] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV,FL+??] start a wikipage on first
candidate lectures with presenter, scope and target audience<br>
<br>
[12:28] FrankLoebe: [action] [LV] consider moving forward the
clarification of which technical basis to use<br>
<br>
[12:28] FrankLoebe: < session ended a few minutes ago ><br>
<br>
[12:31] FrankLoebe: .<br>
== participants ==<br>
<br>
present:<br>
LJ Ludger Jansen<br>
MK Maria Keet<br>
FL Frank Loebe<br>
DP Daniele Porello<br>
ES Emilio Sanfilippo<br>
CT Cassia Trojahn<br>
LV Laure Vieu<br>
<br>
< chat transcript ends ><br>
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