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<p>Dear Giancarlo,</p>
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<p>Thanks for this.<br>
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<p>If you've got the attachment, could you please forward it?<br>
(I do not have access to the Google group linked)<br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Laure<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/04/2021 à 09:04, Guizzardi
Giancarlo a écrit :<br>
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<span style="color:#b1b0b0;font-size:15px">Lin Padgham
<<a href="mailto:lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au</a>>:
Apr 14 07:52PM +1000
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Dear All,<br>
For those wishing to supply additional information for
review of the<br>
currently recommended changes to conferences in the CORE
ranking, I attach<br>
pdfs of 2 sections of the full submission that was
requested for new<br>
conferences, those wishing to be considered for upgrade,
or those listed<br>
for review. These indicate some information which will
be useful to the<br>
committee, particularly for those conferences that were
evaluated on the<br>
basis of a comparator report only.<br>
<br>
I am currently investigating whether we can provide a
web interface for<br>
submission of information (and if we are able to do
that, this will be<br>
compulsory as it greatly assists in getting all the
information into the DB<br>
and out to committees). I will post by the end of the
week regarding how<br>
information should be provided. In the meantime these
attachments provide<br>
some guidance as to what information will be of value.<br>
<br>
I do note that the section D2 where it asks for a list
of at least 20*<br>
top *people<br>
in the area, and a report run through the WPP tool, is
only of value if the<br>
list of people is chosen in a truly objective,
repeatable and verifiable<br>
fashion, and is without implicit or explicit reference
to the conference<br>
being evaluated. If these instructions are not followed,
the report is of<br>
little value in this process.<br>
<br>
Similarly, in section C5, the list of top people
regularly involved in the<br>
conference is only of value if some information is
provided as to why you<br>
consider them a top person in the area, as well as their
google scholar<br>
h-index. Just providing their university affiliation is
of little value.<br>
<br>
Any additional supporting information can also be
provided in any format<br>
desired. However it is important that information is
independently<br>
verifiable data of some sort, and not simply opinions.
While no single type<br>
of data is appropriate as a means of ranking, and a
holistic view must be<br>
sought, there should always be some objective support
for views that<br>
contradict what has been decided on the basis of data
currently reviewed.<br>
<br>
If you are not planning to potentially provide further
information but are<br>
just wanting to know why particular decisions were made,
can i please ask<br>
that you wait until this information is uploaded to the
DB along with the<br>
new rankings. At this stage there will be a more
complete decision report,<br>
accounting for any extra information received. Also, it
is overwhelming for<br>
me to try and respond to everyone, so I would greatly
appreciate patience<br>
until the final reports are uploaded, except for cases
where people feel<br>
that they may be able to contribute additional useful
information.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
lin (CORE rankings coordinator)<br>
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Lin Padgham<br>
Professor in Artificial Intelligence<br>
Computer Science, RMIT University<br>
Melbourne, Australia.<br>
ph. +61 3 9925 3214 (but email works better)</td>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Maria
Keet <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za"><mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 14, 2021 4:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Cohn <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk"><A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk></a>;
Guizzardi Giancarlo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it"><Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it></a>;
Barry Smith <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ifomis@gmail.com"><ifomis@gmail.com></a>; Laure Vieu
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vieu@irit.fr"><vieu@irit.fr></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nicola Guarino <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it"><guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it></a>;
João Paulo Almeida <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jpalmeida@ieee.org"><jpalmeida@ieee.org></a>; John Bateman
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bateman@uni-bremen.de"><bateman@uni-bremen.de></a>; Stefano Borgo
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stefano.borgo@cnr.it"><stefano.borgo@cnr.it></a>; Antony Galton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk"><A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk></a>; Janna Hastings
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:janna.hastings@gmail.com"><janna.hastings@gmail.com></a>; Heinrich Herre
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de"><heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de></a>; Werner Kuhn
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:werner.kuhn@gmail.com"><werner.kuhn@gmail.com></a>; Riichiro Mizoguchi
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mizo@jaist.ac.jp"><mizo@jaist.ac.jp></a>; Mark Musen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:musen@stanford.edu"><musen@stanford.edu></a>; Leo Obrst
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lobrst@gmail.com"><lobrst@gmail.com></a>; Barry Smith
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:phismith@buffalo.edu"><phismith@buffalo.edu></a>; Zena Wood
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk"><Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk></a>; Roberta Ferrario
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it"><roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it></a>; Michael Gruninger
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca"><gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch">thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch"><thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch></a>; IAOA Executive Council
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:iaoa-council@ovgu.de"><iaoa-council@ovgu.de></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: FOIS and CORE</font>
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<div>Dear Tony, Giancarlo, All,<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 14/04/2021 15:45, Anthony Cohn
wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">An interesting
discussion and of course I agree it’s worth making a
case against the “demotion”. I agree about the h-index
point – scopus has a notion of “field weighted impact
factor” – which adjusts for the size of the community. I
don’t know if scopus computes this for conferences, but
given the relatively small size of our community this
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agreed, hence the "a need to spin that story better" note in my
email. afaik, it is something that they consider, but I'm not
privy to all those details.<br>
and indeed, it's people beyond the authors' standings and their
repeat participation, including those of the event organisers
and participants, among others.
<br>
but as long as we don't know the reasons by it got downgraded,
it's guesswork why exactly<br>
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Regards,<br>
Maria<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Guizzardi Giancarlo
<a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it"
moz-do-not-send="true"><Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 14 April 2021 14:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Maria Keet <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za></a>; Barry Smith <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ifomis@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<ifomis@gmail.com></a>; Laure Vieu <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vieu@irit.fr"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<vieu@irit.fr></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nicola Guarino <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it></a>; João Paulo
Almeida <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jpalmeida@ieee.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<jpalmeida@ieee.org></a>; John Bateman <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bateman@uni-bremen.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<bateman@uni-bremen.de></a>; Stefano Borgo
<a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:stefano.borgo@cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<stefano.borgo@cnr.it></a>; Anthony Cohn <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk></a>; Antony Galton
<a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk></a>; Janna
Hastings <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:janna.hastings@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<janna.hastings@gmail.com></a>; Heinrich
Herre <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de></a>;
Werner Kuhn <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:werner.kuhn@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<werner.kuhn@gmail.com></a>; Riichiro
Mizoguchi <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mizo@jaist.ac.jp"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<mizo@jaist.ac.jp></a>; Mark Musen <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:musen@stanford.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<musen@stanford.edu></a>; Leo Obrst <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:lobrst@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<lobrst@gmail.com></a>; Barry Smith <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:phismith@buffalo.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<phismith@buffalo.edu></a>; Zena Wood <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk></a>; Roberta
Ferrario <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it></a>;
Michael Gruninger <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca></a>; <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch"
moz-do-not-send="true">
thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch</a>; IAOA Executive
Council <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:iaoa-council@ovgu.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<iaoa-council@ovgu.de></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: FOIS and CORE</span></p>
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color:black">CORE does periodic revision in its
rankings from time to time.</span></p>
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color:black"> </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">They have already requested input from
the different communities many months ago.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">As a community, we missed that. I
wasn't concerned about that because the conference
was classified as A</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">(well, in theory, we could have tried
to make the case for A* but that would not have
worked out as</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">our demotion shows...).
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color:black"> </span></p>
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color:black">The criteria used by CORE is a mixture
of objective and subjective points (again, the
communities</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">try to make the case considering both
types of indicators). FOIS does not do well
h-index-wise but</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">that is mainly due to the fact that it
is a biannual conference (I won't even enter the
discussion</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">of how much of a bad idea is to use
h-index to judge conferences...). But that is the
same for KR</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">and KR managed to revise their
initially bad evaluation. Again, this requires an
active community effort.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Other conferences that are small but
prestigious in their relevant communities have</span></p>
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color:black">managed to even talk their way up to A*
(e.g., PODS). ER is trying the same move.</span></p>
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color:black"> </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">As for subjective aspects, some of the
points that are taken very seriously is the impact</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">and scientific stature of people
playing key roles in the conference (PC chairs and
members,</span></p>
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color:black">general chairs, keynote speakers,
frequent authors, etc.).
</span></p>
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<div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">I think we should react now by
contacting them and defending the importance of the
event</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">as the most important event for this
community and highlighting some of these points</span></p>
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color:black">best,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="color:black"> Maria Keet <<a
href="mailto:mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za"
moz-do-not-send="true">mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 14, 2021 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Guizzardi Giancarlo <<a
href="mailto:Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">Giancarlo.Guizzardi@unibz.it</a>>;
Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:ifomis@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">ifomis@gmail.com</a>>;
Laure Vieu <<a href="mailto:vieu@irit.fr"
moz-do-not-send="true">vieu@irit.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nicola Guarino <<a
href="mailto:guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">guarino@loa.istc.cnr.it</a>>;
João Paulo Almeida <<a
href="mailto:jpalmeida@ieee.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">jpalmeida@ieee.org</a>>;
John Bateman <<a
href="mailto:bateman@uni-bremen.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">bateman@uni-bremen.de</a>>;
Stefano Borgo <<a
href="mailto:stefano.borgo@cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">stefano.borgo@cnr.it</a>>;
Cohn <<a href="mailto:A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">A.G.Cohn@leeds.ac.uk</a>>;
Antony Galton <<a
href="mailto:A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">A.P.Galton@exeter.ac.uk</a>>;
Janna Hastings <<a
href="mailto:janna.hastings@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">janna.hastings@gmail.com</a>>;
Heinrich Herre <<a
href="mailto:heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">heinrich.herre@imise.uni-leipzig.de</a>>;
Werner Kuhn <<a
href="mailto:werner.kuhn@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">werner.kuhn@gmail.com</a>>;
Riichiro Mizoguchi <<a
href="mailto:mizo@jaist.ac.jp"
moz-do-not-send="true">mizo@jaist.ac.jp</a>>;
Mark Musen <<a href="mailto:musen@stanford.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">musen@stanford.edu</a>>;
Leo Obrst <<a href="mailto:lobrst@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">lobrst@gmail.com</a>>;
Barry Smith <<a
href="mailto:phismith@buffalo.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">phismith@buffalo.edu</a>>;
Zena Wood <<a
href="mailto:Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">Z.M.Wood2@exeter.ac.uk</a>>;
Roberta Ferrario <<a
href="mailto:roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it"
moz-do-not-send="true">roberta.ferrario@loa.istc.cnr.it</a>>;
Michael Gruninger <<a
href="mailto:gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">gruninger@mie.utoronto.ca</a>>;
<a href="mailto:thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch"
moz-do-not-send="true">thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch</a>
<<a href="mailto:thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch"
moz-do-not-send="true">thomas.studer@inf.unibe.ch</a>>;
IAOA Executive Council <<a
href="mailto:iaoa-council@ovgu.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">iaoa-council@ovgu.de</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: FOIS and CORE</span> </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Dear Giancarlo, All,<br>
<br>
It may be of use to first find out from them why the
re-evaluated it differently.
<br>
Good quality papers isn't the only criterion they
use. It's also, e.g., high performers among the
authors, but I assume we pass that as well. And then
there's the h-index of the conference, which doesn't
do well, as if FOIS doesn't really have any impact,
actually. Well, anyway, that's what it looked like
when EKAW was putting the material together, when
Enrico Motta was showing off his tool for computing
citation metrics during the EKAW steering committee
meeting. Anyway, if I had to put in a bet for reason
why, it would be that and a need to spin that story
better. Still, to be sure, perhaps the EC can try to
find out why from Lin first?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Maria<br>
<br>
<br>
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<pre>Dr. Maria Keet</pre>
<pre>Associate Professor</pre>
<pre>Department of Computer Science</pre>
<pre>University of Cape Town</pre>
<pre>Cape Town, South Africa</pre>
<pre>tel: +27 21 650 2667</pre>
<pre>fax: +27 21 650 3551</pre>
<pre>email: <a href="mailto:mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mkeet@cs.uct.ac.za</a></pre>
<pre>work: <a href="http://www.cs.uct.ac.za" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cs.uct.ac.za</a></pre>
<pre>home: <a href="http://www.meteck.org" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.meteck.org</a></pre>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 13/04/2021 21:44,
Guizzardi Giancarlo wrote:</p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Dear
all,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Let me
raise another concern now.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Please
see the message below from the CORE committee,</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">in which
they are revising the classification of many
CS conferences.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"><br>
As many of you know, CORE is important for
computer science faculties.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Not only
directly but also because they build up into
several national evaluation systems.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">If the
classification of a conference goes down,
people will prefer to send their</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">best
papers somewhere else.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"> </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">According
to this revised classification, FOIS went from
an A conference to a B conference.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I think
there is room there for protesting this
classification before their final decisions</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">but we
need to move fast and institutionally, i.e.,
IAOA should do it.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Best
regards,</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Giancarlo</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:black"><a
href="http://groups.google.com/a/core.edu.au/group/rankings/t/9f437bd0cd9470bf?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt; color:#1155CC">CORE
conference rankings (preliminary) changes
</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"></span></p>
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font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:#B1B0B0">Lin Padgham <<a
href="mailto:lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au</a>>:
Apr 11 11:06AM +1000
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Dear CS colleagues,<br>
The CORE committees have now finished
reviewing the approximately 400 new<br>
and existing conferences that were
part of this review round.<br>
More than 50% of the conferences
reviewed retained their existing rank.<br>
Consistent with our previous practice,
we publish here<br>
<<a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cnG1Vgyjdu3pGdIHrvyw6HCithPAvTeDd_YB_FVOK0/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cnG1Vgyjdu3pGdIHrvyw6HCithPAvTeDd_YB_FVOK0/edit?usp=sharing</a>><br>
a list of all planned ranking changes,
allowing a short period for any<br>
additional information if community
members consider there has been an<br>
error of judgement.* If you wish to
potentially question a ranking change,<br>
please notify your intent with an
email to <a
href="mailto:lin.padgham@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
lin.padgham@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a
href="mailto:lin.padgham@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lin.padgham@gmail.com</a>>,
with subject "Rankings
<confname>" by April 18th.*<br>
You will then be provided with the
submission and the detailed decision<br>
report, referencing the data on which
the decision was based. *If you<br>
consider you have additional data
which may change the committee's<br>
recommendation, this must be provided
by April 25th*. Committees will then<br>
review this, prior to finalisation and
upload of the new CORE conference<br>
ranking.<br>
Regards,<br>
Lin (CORE Rankings Co-ordinator)<br>
<br>
Lin Padgham<br>
Professor in Artificial Intelligence<br>
Computer Science, RMIT University<br>
Melbourne, Australia.<br>
ph. +61 3 9925 3214 (but email works
better)<br>
(please note I only work Wednesdays)</span></p>
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