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<p>Dear all,</p>
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<p>Many thanks Giancarlo for raising this issue. It certainly is an
important one that the EC will address asap.</p>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Laure<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 14/04/2021 à 10:33, Maria Keet a
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Dear Giancarlo, All,<br>
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It may be of use to first find out from them why the re-evaluated
it differently. <br>
Good quality papers isn't the only criterion they use. It's also,
e.g., high performers among the authors, but I assume we pass that
as well. And then there's the h-index of the conference, which
doesn't do well, as if FOIS doesn't really have any impact,
actually. Well, anyway, that's what it looked like when EKAW was
putting the material together, when Enrico Motta was showing off
his tool for computing citation metrics during the EKAW steering
committee meeting. Anyway, if I had to put in a bet for reason
why, it would be that and a need to spin that story better. Still,
to be sure, perhaps the EC can try to find out why from Lin first?<br>
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Regards,<br>
Maria<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/04/2021 21:44, Guizzardi
Giancarlo wrote:<br>
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font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Dear all,</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Let me raise another
concern now.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Please see the message
below from the CORE committee,</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> in which they are revising
the classification of many CS conferences.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br>
As many of you know, CORE is important for computer science
faculties.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Not only directly but also
because they build up into several national evaluation
systems.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> If the classification of a
conference goes down, people will prefer to send their</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> best papers somewhere else.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> According to this revised
classification, FOIS went from an A conference to a B
conference.</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> I think there is room there
for protesting this classification before their final
decisions</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> but we need to move fast
and institutionally, i.e., IAOA should do it.</div>
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font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Best regards,</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Giancarlo</div>
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font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <span
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5px 0px"><a
href="http://groups.google.com/a/core.edu.au/group/rankings/t/9f437bd0cd9470bf?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email"
style="font-size:21px;color:#1155cc" target="_blank"
data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://groups.google.com/a/core.edu.au/group/rankings/t/9f437bd0cd9470bf?utm_source%3Ddigest%26utm_medium%3Demail&source=gmail&ust=1618419595211000&usg=AFQjCNGEQOc0GiTi4GLkz5ZDNgVurDdwXQ"
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(preliminary) changes </a></span>
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style="color:#b1b0b0;font-size:15px">Lin Padgham
<<a href="mailto:lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lin.padgham@rmit.edu.au</a>>:
Apr 11 11:06AM +1000 </span><br>
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Dear CS colleagues,<br>
The CORE committees have now finished reviewing the
approximately 400 new<br>
and existing conferences that were part of this review
round.<br>
More than 50% of the conferences reviewed retained
their existing rank.<br>
Consistent with our previous practice, we publish here<br>
<<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>spreadsheets/d/<wbr>17cnG1Vgyjdu3pGdIHrvyw6HCithPA<wbr>vTeDd_YB_FVOK0/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>><br>
a list of all planned ranking changes, allowing a
short period for any<br>
additional information if community members consider
there has been an<br>
error of judgement.* If you wish to potentially
question a ranking change,<br>
please notify your intent with an email to <a
href="mailto:lin.padgham@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"> lin.padgham@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a href="mailto:lin.padgham@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lin.padgham@gmail.com</a>>,
with subject "Rankings <confname>" by April
18th.*<br>
You will then be provided with the submission and the
detailed decision<br>
report, referencing the data on which the decision was
based. *If you<br>
consider you have additional data which may change the
committee's<br>
recommendation, this must be provided by April 25th*.
Committees will then<br>
review this, prior to finalisation and upload of the
new CORE conference<br>
ranking.<br>
Regards,<br>
Lin (CORE Rankings Co-ordinator)<br>
<br>
Lin Padgham<br>
Professor in Artificial Intelligence<br>
Computer Science, RMIT University<br>
Melbourne, Australia.<br>
ph. +61 3 9925 3214 (but email works better)<br>
(please note I only work Wednesdays)</td>
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